Compensatory picks this year

[Patler]

Should be awarded in a few weeks. We had a good thread about it before, but I can't seem to dredge it up. So I started a new one.

We all know generally what's involved in the calculus, but there are often surprises when the awards come out. Just to refresh our memories, the Packers signed no one, and lost:

Korey Hall - 2 year contract for $2.07 million. Hall played 13 games, generated no stats as a carrier or receiver.

Jason Spitz - 3 year contract for $5.25 million. Spitz played 10 games with no starts.

Brandon Jackson - 2 year contract for $4.5 million. Jackson was on IR for the year.

Daryn Colledge - 5 year contract for $27.5 million. Started all season, and if some of the local reports are to be believed, played well enough to be a guy to build their line around.

Cullen Jenkins - 5 year contract for $30.375 million. Played all 16 games. Started out like a terror, but lodged just 1/2 sack over the last 11 games after getting five sacks in the first five games.

[Lurker64]

They're usually announced at the Owner's meetings, which are the weekend of the 24th.

I'm expecting two 4ths and two 7ths. Maybe a 4th, 5th, and 2 7ths.

[pbmax]

Here is what I have. I know another poster had a link to someone they thought had a good track record. Not sure if that site is included here.

Rules: adamjt13.blogspot.com

Predictions: http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/...ck-predictions

A 4th (Jenkins), 4th (Colledge), 7th (Jackson), 7th (Spitz)

Losing Korey Hall would have qualified for a pick but he has the Packers at the maximum 4.

[Patler]

I know we discussed it before, but I've forgotten the reason. Why is it that Asomugha earns compensation for Oakland? His contract was not expired, but some detail in it made him a free agent as if the contract had expired. Anyone remember what it was?

[Lurker64]

I know we discussed it before, but I've forgotten the reason. Why is it that Asomugha earns compensation for Oakland? His contract was not expired, but some detail in it made him a free agent as if the contract had expired. Anyone remember what it was?

The contract had a clause in it that automatically voided the contract if Asomugha failed to meet a several required thresholds. I believe one of them was "have more interceptions in the second year of the contract than the first" which he did not meet (as Asomugha rarely intercepts the football.)

Since the contract was voided by a clause in the contract, he became a free agent like any other.

[Patler]

The contract had a clause in it that automatically voided the contract if Asomugha failed to meet a several required thresholds. I believe one of them was "have more interceptions in the second year of the contract than the first" which he did not meet (as Asomugha rarely intercepts the football.)

Since the contract was voided by a clause in the contract, he became a free agent like any other.

I know it's something like that, but that doesn't sound quite right. A straight performance clause typically makes the contract voidable at the option of the team, and the team would have to elect to void it, in which case they would not get compensation. As I recall, his was a rather peculiar twist on some performance/bonus provisions that resulted in the contract terminating.

This is going to drive me absolutely crazy until I find out again what it is.

[Lurker64]

I know it's something like that, but that doesn't sound quite right. A straight performance clause typically makes the contract voidable at the option of the team, and the team would have to elect to void it, in which case they would not get compensation. As I recall, his was a rather peculiar twist on some performance/bonus provisions that resulted in the contract terminating.

This is going to drive me absolutely crazy until I find out again what it is.

I think the difference is between "a performance clause gives the team the option to void" and "a clause causes the contract to void, regardless of what the team or the player would prefer."

It's entirely likely that the Raiders wrote that contract specifically so that Asomugha would never see the third year, and the Raiders wouldn't lose a compensatory pick in the process.

[Patler]

Several articles talk about an "unusual" provision that voided the contract. The unusual aspect I have found is that there were both likely-to-be-earned and unlikely-to-be-earned bonuses, and the contract stipulated that if neither were met the contract voided, and Oakland could not designate him as a franchise player.

If one had been met but not the other, it would not have voided. One article from Oakland said if he had just recovered a fumble it would not have voided, and likely would not have voided if he had not missed two games, because a "plays" clause would have been met.

[Guiness]

I know it's something like that, but that doesn't sound quite right. A straight performance clause typically makes the contract voidable at the option of the team, and the team would have to elect to void it, in which case they would not get compensation. As I recall, his was a rather peculiar twist on some performance/bonus provisions that resulted in the contract terminating.

This is going to drive me absolutely crazy until I find out again what it is.

In this case, I don't think it was a team option, the contract just automatically voided when the criteria weren't met. From the wording, it seems like it was intended to protect the Raiders if his performance slipped - he only had to meet one of several targets to trigger the last year of the deal but it backfired on them his numbers were low because no one threw his way. His numbers didn't get better because HE got better! Oakland probably would have preferred the contract not end, although he was supposed to be paid the QB franchise tag number, which is pretty insane, even by Al Davis standards.

from the original Schefter article

He also could have achieved his incentives by improving upon on his interceptions, fumble recoveries or sacks this season -- but he didn't have any interceptions, fumble recoveries or sacks this season.

[woodbuck27]

Here is what I have. I know another poster had a link to someone they thought had a good track record. Not sure if that site is included here.

Rules: adamjt13.blogspot.com

Predictions: http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/...ck-predictions

A 4th (Jenkins), 4th (Colledge), 7th (Jackson), 7th (Spitz)

Losing Korey Hall would have qualified for a pick but he has the Packers at the maximum 4.

Two 4's (plus)... Nice.

[Upnorth]

They are building a line around Colledge??? Must ahve fixed his pad level.

[red]

They are building a line around Colledge??? Must ahve fixed his pad level.

they must not be setting their sights very high

[Lurker64]

they must not be setting their sights very high

They are the Arizona Cardinals...

[Patler]

They are building a line around Colledge??? Must ahve fixed his pad level.

Ya, I read that in an article toward the end of the season, maybe after the season. They talked about improvements needed in the o-line, but said LG was locked done by the solid play from Colledge. I suppose it matters who he is compared to.

[Lurker64]

Ya, I read that in an article toward the end of the season, maybe after the season. They talked about improvements needed in the o-line, but said LG was locked done by the solid play from Colledge. I suppose it matters who he is compared to.

Along these lines, I suppose our opinion of Colledge is colored somewhat by how much T.J. Lang improved the LG position last season.