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  • #46
    Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ty-discipline/

    The NFL’s official announcement regarding bounty discipline

    Posted by Mike Florio on March 21, 2012, 1:10 PM EDT



    Comment woodbuck27:

    Case One.

    Maybe some members here have observed one part of 'the sanctions that the NFL Head Office' dished out againts the Saints Organization. IMO that $500K$ fine is a mere 'slap on the wrist sanction' (penalty).

    " Based on the record, Commissioner Goodell has imposed the following discipline on Saints management:

    The New Orleans Saints are fined $500,000. " from available souces.


    IMO this fine is light. It almost absolves the Saints ownership in this outrageously scandalous affair. The safety and welfare of NFL opponent players of the New Orleans SAINTS is the issue here. The Saints GM, HC and Assistant coach receive degrees of different suspensions and loss of pay.

    The NFL HO (announced by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell) in the above post. Hands out to SAINTS ownership a mere slap on the wrist $ 500 K$ fine !??

    Case TWO.

    Looking at the issue that involves the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins and how they handled contracts in violation of 'NFL Contract Rules'.

    Again look at the sanction handed down upon the Cowboys and Skins ownership. The NFL decided to remove CAP money from these two teams over a certain period of time (2 years?). The Cowboys and Saints organizations took this matter to the appeal process.

    Here is the question:

    Who loses in both these instances? Does ownership suffer severe financial penalty?

    I see it this way:

    The Saints ownership get a slap on the wrist $500 K$ fine for Bounty Scandal.

    In the 'Contract Violation' issue.

    The Dallas and Washington ownership and organizations loose CAP space. Who really suffers in that decision? Does ownership suffer hugely? Who really gets hurt?

    Don't the Cowboys and Skins players get hurt in that sanction? Don't the Cowboy and Skins fans get hurt?

    Again the outcome of the Cowboys and Skins Contract Issue and sanction against these organizations of loss of CAP is, in my understanding, under appeal.

    I'm watching this story.
    Re NO, I think those who were responsible for the mistake are taking their lumps. I doubt ownership had any idea it was going on.
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

    George Orwell

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
      Re NO, I think those who were responsible for the mistake are taking their lumps. I doubt ownership had any idea it was going on.
      I'm not so sure Ownership didn't when I recall the way Brett Favre was treated in that NFC Championship game Upnorth. That was brutal treatment of Brett Favre and he and Aaron Rodgers (now) are surfacing as centers of why the Saints are suffering their own undoing.

      Just something to consider;

      a) If I'm the owner of the Saints I might question my teams HC in regards to tackling Brett Favre Vs trying to severly injure him.

      b) I might enquire into a case of overkill.

      Have a nice day Upnorth...Really hot here yesterday at 27 C inthe shade and no clouds. Today it's also just lovely.

      I've yardwork to do. Have a great day. (-:
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      • #48
        The NFL learned how hard it was to expose the bounty system the Saints used to help fuel their 2009 Super Bowl run by investigating the situation in 2010 and coming up with nothing.




        NFL outs suspected Saints whistleblower on its own network

        Posted by Mike Florio on March 21, 2012, 6:53 PM EDT


        " ... As it turns out, the NFL has outed the suspected whistleblower. On the network that the NFL owns.

        Technically, the NFL didn’t directly out the suspected whistleblower. Instead, analyst Warren Sapp outed the suspected whistleblower on Twitter, and Sapp then was invited on air to elaborate. (We won’t use the name of the suspected whistleblower here.)

        “My source that was close to the situation informed me that [name omitted] is the one that was the snitch initially,” Sapp said. ”I trust my source unequivocally.” .... " taken fr. article ..... Please CLICK on LINK for The entire story.
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        • #49
          On Wednesday, Commissioner Roger Goodell meted out discipline to a variety of non-players who were responsible for and/or had knowledge of the Saints' bounty system.


          Goodell will discipline Saints players later

          Posted by Mike Florio on March 21, 2012, 7:49 PM EDT
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          • #50
            When the NFL initially cracked the case of the Saints' bounty program, coach Sean Payton didn't believe he'd be suspended at all.


            Saints were bracing for a four-game suspension for Payton

            Posted by Mike Florio on March 21, 2012, 10:15 PM EDT
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            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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            • #51
              Saints defensive tackle Tom Johnson is angry at NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell for suspending coach Sean Payton for the entire 2012 season, and unlike Drew Brees, Johnson isn't speechless: Johnson had plenty to say.


              Saints’ Tom Johnson: Sean Payton is our leader, this is not right

              Posted by Michael David Smith on March 22, 2012, 7:19 AM EDT
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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              • #52
                Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-own-network/



                NFL outs suspected Saints whistleblower on its own network

                Posted by Mike Florio on March 21, 2012, 6:53 PM EDT


                " ... As it turns out, the NFL has outed the suspected whistleblower. On the network that the NFL owns.

                Technically, the NFL didn’t directly out the suspected whistleblower. Instead, analyst Warren Sapp outed the suspected whistleblower on Twitter, and Sapp then was invited on air to elaborate. (We won’t use the name of the suspected whistleblower here.)

                “My source that was close to the situation informed me that [name omitted] is the one that was the snitch initially,” Sapp said. ”I trust my source unequivocally.” .... " taken fr. article ..... Please CLICK on LINK for The entire story.


                Former Saints tight end Jeremy Shockey has come forward publicly to defend himself after former Buccaneers defensive tackle Warren Sapp said that Shockey was a "snitch" who informed the league office about the Saints bounty case.


                Jeremy Shockey hits back at Sapp over accusation in Saints bounty case

                Posted by Michael David Smith on March 22, 2012, 1:55 PM EDT
                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                  Let's put a bounty on Sapp.
                  Maybe the Buc's had a bounty on Clifton that game.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                    Let's put a bounty on Sapp.
                    i would love to be able to turn on the tv one day and see that someone has taken that loud mouth fat ass out.

                    him and irvin are my 2 least favorit players of all time.

                    and before anyone decides to be a smart ass and say anything, YES, its mostly because they are both black

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-bounty-case/

                      Jeremy Shockey hits back at Sapp over accusation in Saints bounty case

                      Posted by Michael David Smith on March 22, 2012, 1:55 PM EDT

                      woodbuck27 Fri.23 March,2012:

                      This story is heating up:

                      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/Shockey wants action from league

                      Shockey wants action from league

                      Posted by Mike Florio on March 23, 2012, 8:05 AM EDT
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                      ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                      ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                      • #56
                        I found this on Foxsports' web page, and I quote:

                        "Sapp, who currently works as an analyst for NFL Network, could face legal problems for publicly naming Shockey as the whistle-blower, Los Angeles-based employment lawyer Arthur Whang told FOXSports.com Wednesday.

                        Federal labor law protects employees against retribution as a result of complaining about unsafe work environments.

                        "Sapp is technically a league employee," Whang said. "If Shockey is the whistle-blower, he is protected. So, by outing him, Sapp may have opened Shockey up to retaliation, such as someone not signing him."

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                        • #57
                          Why do people think Sapp is some fucking genius anyway. The guy talks like he's constantly having a stroke and this kind of black circus is the only thing he seems good at.
                          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            i would love to be able to turn on the tv one day and see that someone has taken that loud mouth fat ass out.

                            him and irvin are my 2 least favorit players of all time.

                            and before anyone decides to be a smart ass and say anything, YES, its mostly because they are both black
                            Another example of affirmative racial prejudice in action.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                              Another example of affirmative racial prejudice in action.
                              I dunno about that. If Aikman and Collinsworth are the best they can do for ex-player commentators, then I think the talent pool is just way too shallow. Look how an active player like Rodgers overshadowed them all in one appearance.

                              The further away from the game, the more useless their knowledge becomes. It actually makes you appreciate the work a guy like Al Michaels does year in and year out to stay informed. He knows the rules better than any other broadcaster and better than some refs. I haven't heard much from Kurt Warner except Tebow related material, but I bet its a similar situation.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #60
                                From BleacherReport.com, your destination for the latest news on your teams and topics in sports.


                                Saints' Bounty-Gate Punishment: Too Harsh? Too Soft? Or Just Right?

                                By Josh Zerkle (NFL Lead Writer)

                                March 23, 2012
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