Saturday on a Friday

[Upnorth]

Oh one last point Patler, I'm right and your wrong.

[pbmax]

I was under the understanding that guaranteed money is prorated over the lenght of the contract, so it would not be a 9 million dollar difference this year but over the 3 years of Wells contract. I believe the average of Wells Contract is just over 6 mill a year, where as Saturday's is just under 4 mil a year. So lets say the difference is about 2 1/4 a year, so we would not be losing 9 mil in flexibility this year, but rather 2 1/4 mil this year. Next year same thing. The following year would be the big difference between the contracts, as Saturday would be gone and Wells would still be around, and possibly still playing at a decent level. 2014 is the year the big tv contract hits the cap, so there will be a corresponding jump in the cap, most estimate about 20 mil (from what i read) which reduces the impact of Wells final year. Long story short, I think you are over stating the financial impact of the two contract. Money is important, but we are talking about a key player on the oline for protecting ARod.

Aside from the money, did you follow my other (and more important) point?

Those add up to my desire to see it as Wells wanting to move rather that TT screwing up.

Wells' contract is for four years, $24 million and $13 million guaranteed. Wells will collect all his guaranteed cash in the first two years. Saturday was offered dueling one year contracts from Denver and Green Bay and its thought the Packers gave him a second year to seal the deal. Since that was likely the costliest Packer concession and given that Saturday had only a one year contract as leverage, its highly doubtful much of his money (if any at all) is truly guaranteed. So Saturday has a 2 year, $7.75 that is, should the Packers desire it, simply a one year deal for $4 million.

And its not enough to count on an increasing cap to afford Rodgers, Jennings, et al. Since the cap will be going up for all teams, other teams will have space to make a run at them. And since all contracts will be headed north, the extra cap room alone might not be enough.

[Upnorth]

Wells' contract is for four years, $24 million and $13 million guaranteed. Wells will collect all his guaranteed cash in the first two years. Saturday was offered dueling one year contracts from Denver and Green Bay and its thought the Packers gave him a second year to seal the deal. Since that was likely the costliest Packer concession and given that Saturday had only a one year contract as leverage, its highly doubtful much of his money (if any at all) is truly guaranteed. So Saturday has a 2 year, $7.75 that is, should the Packers desire it, simply a one year deal for $4 million.

And its not enough to count on an increasing cap to afford Rodgers, Jennings, et al. Since the cap will be going up for all teams, other teams will have space to make a run at them. And since all contracts will be headed north, the extra cap room alone might not be enough.

Regarding the increasing cap, I dont think it will help to sign Jennings. In my mind he is gone, unless the WR market becomes sensible between now and then. Rodgers, Rajo and Clay on the other had I do thnk we will be able to keep. One last point, i thought Wells sign 3 yr 18 mil.

[Joemailman]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...144117105.html

I told him (Campen), I want to be coached," Saturday said. "There isn't a point where you have everything figured out and you can't do things better. The things I saw, I'm very excited about.

Hopefully Campen will be able to coach him up.

[Guiness]

Ok, all of you are WAY off topic here. This is a thread to post silly songs with the word Sudbury in it. Or is that Saturday? Something like that.

[Rutnstrut]

I have always really liked Jeff Saturday, he has always been a very solid player. But it is true his play has dropped off, especially the last few years, I am one of the few that really watches and is interested in line play throughout the NFL. it isn't the sexy part of football, but without solid line play on both sides of the ball you don't get much of the rest. I really want Saturday to do well in GB, but I just don't see there not being a noticeable drop off from Wells. If I'm wrong I will be the first to admit it, but I don't think I am. Not only do I think there will be a drop off, I doubt Saturday makes it through the whole season.

[woodbuck27]

Funny how all the stories of Manning bringing along Saturday and Reggie Wayne turned out to be bunk.

Media writer person having coffee and a donut>>>> Ohh an idea>>> Because I'm aware of that and that ...and well .....that too !! mmmm

Peyton Manning and other Colts are Free Agents. There >>>I'll get paid >>> I have it ! >>> A storyb my Editor will absoluely LOVE. Let's see>>>

mmmm I've got it ! Preeeetieee GOOD story line >>>

I'll START writing it up on this napkin >>>Ohh ! coffee stain>>>OK... another napkin>>>

Send it out there>>>On the wire.>>>Other writers catch the pulse of that story >>> They can write it better, even, enhance it>>>those writers add to that story>>That story comes ALIVE ! >>> That story goes VIRALE >>>

The TV media buys into it! >>>Something to talk about>>>>Need a show>>> The fan buys into it>>sure makes sense>>>IT... must be !

The man involved dumbs it out ! >>> He goes in a whole different direction >>> Whaaaaat !

What do we learn?

Simple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patience.

[woodbuck27]

Ok, all of you are WAY off topic here. This is a thread to post silly songs with the word Sudbury in it. Or is that Saturday? Something like that.

Now we're gettin down !

What ....Tuesday Weld is Jim Carrey's Mommie !?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Carrey

http://www.google.com/search?q=tuesday+weld&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-ca:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADFA_enCA428&prmd=imvnsol&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8wBvT8uJJcbUgQe83pVr&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=532

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuesday_Weld

Jim's Daddie sure understands the meaning of the word>>>LUCKY>>> if that's true. Even if it's not he likely knows the meaning of that word.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1473397/

Was that possible fact written on a napkin?

[sheepshead]

Actually, it isn't just 2 million per year. You really have to look at the guaranteed money and lengths of contracts, because those are the issues that affect if you can or can not sign other players. It will be paid regardless. Wells is guaranteed to get $13 million, Saturday just $4 million. The Packers have flexibility with $9 million cap dollars that they would not have if they had signed Wells for the same contract he did sign. They may chose to give some $3.75 million of it to Saturday next year, or they may sign a cheaper or more expensive alternative for 2013.

Thats the ball buster with veteran lineman and running backs, its those last 2 years that will likely be cap killers. It was the deal with Rivera back in the day. I think its great signing, I have to believe Saturday thinks he might play in a Super Bowl as a result.

[Bretsky]

All you punsters deserve this. Especially Bretsky, who as we speak is busy ignoring mortgage processing to redefine starting caliber so he doesn't have to credit Thompson for this signing.

Bretsky goes to Vegas ; Ted signs a free agent while I'm in the plane. I called this one long ago; not hard to read. Great attitude, team leader, good player...not looking to raid a salary cap like Wells.

Hey, was he injured last year ? I just want to verify he started three games before changing my sig

[Bretsky]

I think Ted would be hard pressed to spend a first round pick this year on a player who wouldn't challenge to start, since there's enough who would. It's not like Konz is a huge upside guy, a lot of his value is in the fact that he's clean, technique sound, and really NFL ready. But he's not going to top Saturday in the pre-snap read stuff (which GB's system puts a huge priority on), and there's no way that Konz is going to win any of the other four starting jobs unless we feel compelled to move Lang to tackle for some reason (which wouldn't be a good idea, since he's a darn good LG.)

DERROK SHERROD

[Zool]

Bretsky goes to Vegas ; Ted signs a free agent while I'm in the plane. I called this one long ago; not hard to read. Great attitude, team leader, good player...not looking to raid a salary cap like Wells.

Hey, was he injured last year ? I just want to verify he started three games before changing my sig

Jeff Saturday

Started 16 games in 2011.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think you should change your signature to this:

2007 13-3
2008 6-10
2009 11-5
2010 10-6
2011 15-1

TT looks at Bretsky and whispers "scoreboard".

[pbmax]

DERROK SHERROD

Left Tackles don't always fall into your lap at pick 32. Especially when you have 1 starter who is clearly on his last legs. If Newhouse didn't develop (without an offseason) he would have started more games than Clifton.

[Bretsky]

Left Tackles don't always fall into your lap at pick 32. Especially when you have 1 starter who is clearly on his last legs. If Newhouse didn't develop (without an offseason) he would have started more games than Clifton.

I doubt Sherrod was starting last year; he didn't look too good in the preseason. It's hard to paint the fall into our lap picture when he was drafted right where everybody expected him to fall