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REALITY BITES; Consensus...Dear Nick Collinins..PLZ RETIRE
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The think you have to remember though is that Collins' injury was not due to a pre-existing condition, as was the case with Terrence Murphy. It was due to the fact that a 230 pound man landed on top of his head. If the doctors determine that he is no more likely to suffer a debilitating injury than he would have been before this injury happened, I expect he will play. Of course, he will still have a big mental hurdle to overcome. but I think he will try it if given a medical green light.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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That, I think, is what scares me.Originally posted by Guiness View PostStill can't believe how innocuous that play looked."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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I'm surprised they call that Innocuous. When I saw the play, I said, "Oh no" to my wife. He took that shot square on the noggan without anything to absorb it but his spine. There wasn't even a degree of deflection. It was like dropping a sand bag square on your head from a 2 story building. Not to be a know-it-all, because clearly I've eliminated all possibility of that status within about 3 posts of being here, but I knew at the moment of contact that was bad. I cringed.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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It is my fault. I haven't missed a single play of a Packer game in nearly 20 years until that game. I had to leave early to catch a flight for a business trip and on my way to the airport a friend text me that Collins was knocked out of the game.
I hate to say it but he has played his final play. God bless Nick, raise that family like the Champion you are.
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Actually, if the neck is repaired properly, and there's no sign of spinal stenosis (Nick has no history of this condition), then Nick Collins is actually less likely to incur this injury again than Morgan Burnett, Charlie Peprah, or M.D. Jennings would be to get it the first time.
Therefore, assuming everything checks out medically, it would be more irresponsible to allow Morgan Burnett to play than to allow Nick Collins to play.</delurk>
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That's the feeling I get too. The Packers are uber safe with players health, but everything I hear, there are several players who've had this surgery and come back. God gave that guy the body of Zeus. You have my dollars on him healing up like a champ. The only fear the doctors are going to have when they let him loose is for the poor bastard who has to take the next lick by old number 36.Originally posted by Lurker64 View PostActually, if the neck is repaired properly, and there's no sign of spinal stenosis (Nick has no history of this condition), then Nick Collins is actually less likely to incur this injury again than Morgan Burnett, Charlie Peprah, or M.D. Jennings would be to get it the first time.
Therefore, assuming everything checks out medically, it would be more irresponsible to allow Morgan Burnett to play than to allow Nick Collins to play.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Per the linked article:
"...and in discussions with GM Ted Thompson both he and McCarthy agreed they couldn't see allowing their sons to play again presented with the same choice"
This "same choice" assumes he clears all medical testing from his original surgeons. How then do you see him playing (at least in the Green and Gold) again?
Ted: "Hey Nick, if you were my kid hell no I don't sign off on it but since I have a love for flashy rings and my own self interest go out there and lay a lick old number 36!"
How do you reconcile the two?
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They're talking about how they would feel as a parent if their child was in this situation. Most parents have a natural instinct to be protective of their children. Well, Nick Collins isn't their child. He is a 29 year old man fully capable of making an intelligent, sober decision.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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When it comes right down to it, it's Collins' decision to make, not TT's or MM's. If Collins' decides to continue, the Packers have three choices, play him, trade him or release him.Originally posted by Farley Face View PostPer the linked article:
"...and in discussions with GM Ted Thompson both he and McCarthy agreed they couldn't see allowing their sons to play again presented with the same choice"
This "same choice" assumes he clears all medical testing from his original surgeons. How then do you see him playing (at least in the Green and Gold) again?
Ted: "Hey Nick, if you were my kid hell no I don't sign off on it but since I have a love for flashy rings and my own self interest go out there and lay a lick old number 36!"
How do you reconcile the two?
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Agreed it is 100% Nick's decision to continue his career if he so chooses. It is 100% TT's and the Packers choice if he does that as a Packer. The comments MM has made to the media tell me that isn't going to happen.
Originally posted by Patler View PostWhen it comes right down to it, it's Collins' decision to make, not TT's or MM's. If Collins' decides to continue, the Packers have three choices, play him, trade him or release him.
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