Greg Williams - Bounty Audio

[woodbuck27]

Your going on the list Winger.

Schindlers list ... GREAT movie. (-:

[woodbuck27]

I am calm. Lighten up Francis.

The name is Edwin.

[Smeefers]

I am calm. Lighten up Francis.

Agreed. We're talking like adults to disagree on a topic. It's a simple difference. He thinks I'm an unethical bastard because I have no problem taking advantage of injured players and doing the most to win. He wants to win too, just not at all costs and I think that's not a very realistic way to look at things. That's what it boils down to, all reasoning aside, and we're not going to convince the other person that we're right and they're wrong.

[sharpe1027]

Agreed. We're talking like adults to disagree on a topic. It's a simple difference. He thinks I'm an unethical bastard because I have no problem taking advantage of injured players and doing the most to win. He wants to win too, just not at all costs and I think that's not a very realistic way to look at things. That's what it boils down to, all reasoning aside, and we're not going to convince the other person that we're right and they're wrong.

Agreed. The unethical bastard comment was 1) a joke and 2) not just about taking advantage of injured players. I don't mind running the ball straight at a DL with a bad ankle or blitzing a QB that can't move because he's hurt. I just think it crosses the line when you specifically trying to cause significant injuries.

I don't disagree that it does happen and I'm not all that surprised someone finally got caught. There are huge sums of money at stake and it is extremely competitive both for players and coaches. I just don't agree that it is an acceptable thing to do. Just because I understand why it happens, that doesn't make it right in my book.

[mraynrand]

While I believe that Williams got what he deserved, there's a kernal of truth to Fritz's point. The NFL has glorified this type of "bone-jarring" play for years and now it's coming back to bite them in the ass. They are now going to have to against decades of promoting this type of play and some coaches and players are going to have to pay for it.

The bone jarring plays are OK, they've just imposed some restrictions. The issue here is deliberate attempts at injury, with a bounty. The two are largely non-overlapping.

[SnakeLH2006]

Fuck...Snake would hit anyone 4 enuff cash.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/16/nflpa-knew-about-contents-of-williams-audio-before-tapes-were-released/

NFLPA knew about contents of Williams audio before tapes were released

Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2012, 7:34 AM EDT

"Although the fact that Fujita knew about the contents of the tape will spark speculation that Fujita was the so-called “mediator” who ultimately gave Pamphilon the green light to release the audio over the objections of former Saints special-teamer Steve Gleason,

Mortensen explains that the NFLPA was ..... “somewhat disappointed” by the fact that the tapes were released, since the fact that the league didn’t know about the tape gave the union a strategic advantage in connection with the efforts to minimize or prevent player suspensions." FR. Story

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/sean-pamphilon-should-tread-lightly-when-making-demands/

Sean Pamphilon should tread lightly when making demands

Posted by Mike Florio on April 15, 2012, 10:19 PM EDT

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/16/goodell-wont-submit-to-interview-to-get-williams-tapes/

GOODELL WON'T SUBMIT TO INTERVIEW TO GET Greg WILLIAMS TAPES.

[pbmax]

The filmmaker is overplaying his hand. He's gotten enough pub for his movie, just let it go buddy.

[Fritz]

Fuck...Snake would hit anyone 4 enuff cash.

Your own mudder, Snakey?

[SnakeLH2006]

Your own mudder, Snakey?

How bout Drew? She's growing on me Fritz.