Grant could find new team soon

[Pugger]

But I don't think Grant is as wanting as some here think.

[pbmax]

Ahman was great.

Ryan was very good.

[Packers4Glory]

i feel like the few times MM let Grant do what he does best and gain more carries you saw more of what he was in the past. He's not going to look great w/ 8-10 carries a game, he gets better as he gets more.

[woodbuck27]

In four years and 1 game Grant became the fifth in all time rushing yards for the Packers, surpassing Dorsey Levens and being less than 200 yards behind Canadeo, looking up at only Brockington, Taylor and Green.

Yet, for many fans he is just extra baggage. His biggest fault is that he was not Ahman Green, and that's what fans expected from him.

Isn't that 'the TRUTH'.

" Grant had a successful first season with the Packers, rushing for almost 1,000 yards, including five 100+ yard games, in 10 starts. He set franchise records with 201 rushing yards and 3 touchdowns in the Packers' divisional playoff game win against the Seattle Seahawks, a performance for which he was heavily praised, as they went on to reach the NFC Championship Game. " Wikipidea ** for More.

** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Gr...en_Bay_Packers

BEST Green Bay Packer 'Rushers' ... ALL TIME:

1) Ahman Green ... Rushed for 8322 yards as a Green Bay Packer . . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahman_Green

2) NFL HOFer and GB Packer HOFer Jim Taylor... Rushed for 8207 yards as a Green Bay Packer . . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tay...rican_football)

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?PLAYER_ID=211

3) GB Packer HOFer ... John Brockington Rushed for 4634 yards as a Green Bay Packer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brockington#Professional_career

http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerRB.asp?id=440

4) NFL HOFer and GB Packer HOFer ... Tony Canadeo ...Rushed for a total of 4197 Yards as a Green Bay Packer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Canadeo

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?PlayerId=41

Tony Canadeo with 4,197 yards rushing, was one of 'only Five Packers to have his number retired.That number was 3. The others were Don Hutson (14); Bart Starr (15); Ray Nitschke (66) and Reggie White (92).


and . . . .

5) RYAN GRANT is among that 'Fast Company' of ALL TIME Green Bay Packer Greats with a total of 4016 YARDS Rushing. NOT too shabby for this oft injured RB.

[Upnorth]

Point to ponder; is Ahman Green considered great ? I know he was very good.......maybe my pedastal is higher.

But I've watched GB for 30 plus years and I'm still not sure I've seen greatness at RB for the Pack

Ryan Grant was a nice system guy; he was very average

Green was great, full stop.
I guess you could call Grant a system back, if the system relied on a RB who could hold on to the ball, consistently gain tough yards, have a second gear in the back field and make decent blocks. He was easily a top 10 RB until he was injured and I would argue top 5. He unfortunatly never recovered from his injury or we would be even more unstoppable on offence.

[woodbuck27]

Green was great, full stop.
I guess you could call Grant a system back, if the system relied on a RB who could hold on to the ball, consistently gain tough yards, have a second gear in the back field and make decent blocks. He was easily a top 10 RB until he was injured and I would argue top 5. He unfortunatly never recovered from his injury or we would be even more unstoppable on offence.

Ahman 'Batman' Green WAS GREAT........FULL STOP !

Awesome.

Yes he sometimes fumbled the football. (-:

[Tony Oday]

Green fumbled the ball too much. I mean I still remember the Eagles game where his forearm black sleeves made him fumble in the first half at least twice maybe three times then the second half he had different cloth white ones never fumbled again.

[Guiness]

Green fumbled the ball too much. I mean I still remember the Eagles game where his forearm black sleeves made him fumble in the first half at least twice maybe three times then the second half he had different cloth white ones never fumbled again.

I remember that game - I think it must have been Monday night, because I'm pretty sure it was Madden that was saying the sleeves were making him fumble? Then he went on in the second half about how they listened to him and took them off!

[Fritz]

Point to ponder; is Ahman Green considered great ? I know he was very good.......maybe my pedastal is higher.

But I've watched GB for 30 plus years and I'm still not sure I've seen greatness at RB for the Pack

Ryan Grant was a nice system guy; he was very average

Yes, you have. Twice.

[woodbuck27]

Yes, you have. Twice.

Both very good but Ahman Green has yet to be acknowledged by the Green Bay Packers with HOF status.

How long should that take?

[Upnorth]

Fritz,

Perfect post.

[Smeefers]

Grant is a couple steps below Green, but when you compare someone to one of the best RB's to ever play on the team, sure there's something to be desired. I mean, sure, Jordy Nelson is good, but he's no Sterling Sharpe or Don Hudson. Just because he's not as good as some of the best players we've had on our team doesn't mean he wasn't a solid contributor. I think grant was good because he was one of the last 3 down backs in the league and he could own it. Then he got hurt and hasn't been the same since.

[Patler]

Green fumbled the ball too much. I mean I still remember the Eagles game where his forearm black sleeves made him fumble in the first half at least twice maybe three times then the second half he had different cloth white ones never fumbled again.

Funny thing is, if you look at "fumbles/touch" he was worse than the best "nonfumblers", but no worse than a lot of backs who don't have reputations as fumblers.

Ahman Green - 28 fumbles in 2056 carries (1 every 73.4 carries)
Jamal Lewis - 35 fumbles in 2542 carries (1 every 72.6 carries)


A. Green - 7 fumbles in 378 receptions (1 every 54 receptions)
J. Lewis - 4 fumbles in 221 receptions (1 every 55 receptions)

I don't remember Lewis being considered a fumbler.

Green tended to get his in bunches, which made it seem worse than it was. The "Homgren traded him because..." thing started it. Always carrying the ball on one side perpetuated it, even though he fumbled no more frequently when the ball was in the "wrong" arm.

[Fritz]

I think you are correct on all points, Patler. One, Holmgren's reason for trading Green followed him to Green Bay. And I think - if I remember correctly - Green's fumbles tended to be at the beginning of the season, so he got "pegged" for the whole year, even once the fumbles slowed or stopped. And the thing about always carrying the ball in the same arm was the third factor. Didn't he try to learn to switch, then fumbled a couple times doing so, then went back to his old ways?

I think Green was even better than Brockington, and Brockington was awfully good for a few years. What really hurt him was the injury - his knee, I think. He was a back of the old-school variety - the horse you rode. Kinda like Earl Campbell, though not quite that good.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ahman always fumbled a lot in the first few games of the season, everybody would worry, and then he'd go on long streaks without fumbling. They always had a stat that he fumbled less than Jim Taylor. At the end of his career his fumble rate was pretty normal.

Campbell was awesome, but I think Green might have been a better all around RB. Maybe at his absolute best, Campbell was better. Before his punishing style took its toll. Then again, Green was pretty special for a few years also.

I think Green was very underrated--even by some Packer fans. I like my all around backs though. I also think Marshall Faulk is underrated. Most like him, but I think he's one of the five best RBs in NFL history.