Grant could find new team soon

[Fritz]

We talk a lot about homerism on Packerrats, but sometimes I think we undervalue some of our own.

The AP vs. Green debate may be in some ways like the Barry Sanders/Emmitt Smith debate. It all depends on which flavor you like best.

In my opinion, AP may be a better "pure" runner, but not by as much as you guys seem to think.

And you can't pretend that AP can catch the ball or block as well as Green.

Both great backs, though. I'm not saying AP's not great. He is.

[woodbuck27]

We talk a lot about homerism on Packerrats, but sometimes I think we undervalue some of our own.

The AP vs. Green debate may be in some ways like the Barry Sanders/Emmitt Smith debate. It all depends on which flavor you like best.

In my opinion, AP may be a better "pure" runner, but not by as much as you guys seem to think.

And you can't pretend that AP can catch the ball or block as well as Green.

Both great backs, though. I'm not saying AP's not great. He is.

Why are we comparing AP with AG?

Isn't the question? Was Ahman Green a great Packer RB or not?

IMO he certainly was.

[Pugger]

Let's get back OT. I heard Grant is visiting NE.

[mraynrand]

Let's get back OT. I heard Grant is visiting NE.

I thought Grant was a RB, not an OT.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Why is no mention made of Green's recent work with the Omaha Nighthawks and Montreal Alouettes?

[pittstang5]

So I'm guessing there has been no interest from the Packers camp on resigning Grant? So right now, Starks, Saine and Green are the only backs on the Roster? Who knows when Green will be available leaving Starks and Saine.

Pretty much tells me TT will be taking a RB somewhere next week....guessing in the 3 to 5 round range. Probably with one of those 4th round Comp Picks is my guess.

[Smidgeon]

Put down the crack pipe. Any person that watches football would take AP over Green all day long.

I would too. I was just pointing out that the disparity between AP and Green wasn't as great as the previous post claimed.

[Tony Oday]

And I am stating that a back like AP would have been even BETTER on the Pack.

[Smidgeon]

And I am stating that a back like AP would have been even BETTER on the Pack.

Perhaps as a runner, but I don't think he would have been the third down receiver on the Packers (except maybe this last year).

[Pugger]

I thought Grant was a RB, not an OT.

Here OT means On Topic.

[Bretsky]

So I'm guessing there has been no interest from the Packers camp on resigning Grant? So right now, Starks, Saine and Green are the only backs on the Roster? Who knows when Green will be available leaving Starks and Saine.

Pretty much tells me TT will be taking a RB somewhere next week....guessing in the 3 to 5 round range. Probably with one of those 4th round Comp Picks is my guess.

With the 28th pick in round one of the NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select Doug Martin

That would be a zinger; it would not surprise me

[MJZiggy]

B, as to your sig. Can you send me the latest email you have and I'll see if it matches an email that I have for him. Last time I reached out, he didn't respond.

[Deputy Nutz]

Rastak doesn't like you, he told me in a very detailed email, that he would love to come back, but because of you he will never, ever come back. Pretty horrible stuff.


Anyways, If I was a Packer fan, I would jump on the Brandon Saine train.

[Bretsky]

B, as to your sig. Can you send me the latest email you have and I'll see if it matches an email that I have for him. Last time I reached out, he didn't respond.

I don't have his email anymore......it was on my last pc which is deseased

Just send me his email and I will try. I think the Favre hating bunch sent him away a while back

[woodbuck27]

Couple of things....

First, I think you really mis-speak when you use the term "all around guys." I take that - and I think most people have taken that - to mean someone who has a variety of the kinds of skills a RB can have. Obviously, running the ball well is one, but you can divide that into inside and outside ability. Then there's pass blocking, as someone mentioned. Then there's receiving out of the backfield.

By that definition, Barry Sanders was in no way an "all around guy." He was in fact one-dimensional. He had a distinct distaste for both pass blocking and for going out of the backfield to catch the ball. Wayne Fontes, the Lions' coach, wanted to use Sanders' open field ability by getting him out in the flat for some passes, but Sanders did not want to do that and in fact if you look at his career stats he didn't catch too many passes.

He was also not a guy who would go up the middle for one or two yards. Now, he might go up the middle after some dancing, and get you thirty yards. But if a coach needed a yard and a half and wanted a guy to just take the ball and go up the gut, Sanders was not the guy to choose.

Finally, he did not have breakaway speed. He was perhaps the shiftiest, most-difficult-to-tackle running back that ever played, and he could gash teams for big, big gains, but he did not have take-it-to-the-house speed.

I[m not saying he wasn't a great back. He was incredible to watch - I saw him surrounded by three or four tacklers a number of times, and they just couldn't find him to tackle him. He was wonderful. He was elite.

But he wasn't what you'd call an "all around guy."

Secondly, you used the word "great" backs earlier. I do wonder how different people define that. For some, longevity is a key, so a guy like Emmitt Smith, whom I never thought was a truly great, great back, is considered great. He was consistent for a lot of years. For others, longevity is not quite as important as a few great, great years.

For my money, Earl Campbell in his prime was one of the most punishing, gifted backs I've ever had the good fortune to watch. Nobody really enjoyed trying to tackle that guy, and he carried those Houston teams on his back, along with a whole lot of defenders. Having seen only a little footage of Jim Brown, I imagine that Campbell is as close as I've ever come to seeing someone like the great Jim Brown.

When I come back I want to experience it just like you. To learn that you saw 'the GREAT' Barry Sanders and Earl Campbell play...PRECIOUS. I noted your respect for 'the Greatest (aguably) 'football player' Jim Brown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Brown

Many older or long time time Packer fans will say it's their guy; Don Hutson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Hutson

I'd be surprized if it isn't Jim Brown (according to the EXPERTS). Jim Brown's career was rather short before he retired and dabbled in acting and moved to more basic pursuits .

OK ... I just checked that out:

"Football's 100 Greatest Players: #1 Jim Brown". The Sporting News. Archived from the original on September 16, 2008. http://web.archive.org/web/200809161...nfl/100/1.html. Retrieved April 1, 2008. " Wikipedia

Fritz ... your a lucky fella to see Barry Sanders and Earl Campbell and likely John Brockington and Ahman Green carry the pigskin.

GO PACKERS !