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  • Buluga is not going to earn top dollar. If Colts can hang onto for Peyton, Harrison, Wayne, and Freeney I see no reason why we will not be able to hang onto our guys. You guys keep acting that contacts like Woodson, Pickett, Driver, and maybe Collins aren't going to be off the books by the time we resign those guys. TT knows what he is doing and there is zero chance Jennings will leave, he's not that type of diva reciever who would leave to get mega dollars else where.

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    • You fellas may be right about the number crunching, and the inability to keep all the players you want, but you may be wrong about Jennings. No way Jennings has the value to another team he has in Green Bay. The timing between Rodgers to Jennings won this team a Superbowl and then lost them the Divisional playoff game against the Giants. That connection, Rodgers-Jennings may be every bit as valuable to Green Bay as Peyton to Harrison. So the question is whether the Packers have their version of Reggie Wayne ready to go when Jennings contract is up. Nelson is decent, but he's not that guy. Perhaps Cobb or a player yet to be drafted. That's why it shouldn't surprise anyone - not just Wist - if the Packers select a WR in the first few rounds.

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      • Originally posted by Patler View Post
        I have been arguing the same thing for several years. The Packers will have some very tough decisions to make in the 2 to 4 years ahead. Rodgers will get paid. Matthews almost certainly will get paid. But then you look at Jennings, Finley again, Bulaga, Raji, all will expect top level type contracts for their positions. Lang, maybe Newhouse, Shields, Nelson again perhaps sooner than later will all expect very good contracts, Nelson perhaps moving into the upper group if he performs again as he did last year.

        All good teams lose players they would really like to keep. That is what the salary cap is intended to cause.

        If you were to pick one to let get away over the next two seasons, Jennings might not be the worst choice if the younger guys show something this year.

        And that's one more issue I have with keeping Driver. His salary could be used to help front load one of the young guys if Ted re upped somebody early.

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        • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
          And that's one more issue I have with keeping Driver. His salary could be used to help front load one of the young guys if Ted re upped somebody early.
          It's pretty obvious Driver is going to have to restructure his contract which I don't see him having any problem doing so. Guess that issue is solved!

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          • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
            Buluga is not going to earn top dollar. If Colts can hang onto for Peyton, Harrison, Wayne, and Freeney I see no reason why we will not be able to hang onto our guys.

            The Colts didn't hang on to Marshal Faulk.


            I haven't crunched the numbers, but it seems like the value of franchise QB contracts as a percentage of the cap are rising over the last few years - leaving less money for the rest of the roster.

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            • Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
              You fellas may be right about the number crunching, and the inability to keep all the players you want, but you may be wrong about Jennings. No way Jennings has the value to another team he has in Green Bay. The timing between Rodgers to Jennings won this team a Superbowl and then lost them the Divisional playoff game against the Giants. That connection, Rodgers-Jennings may be every bit as valuable to Green Bay as Peyton to Harrison. So the question is whether the Packers have their version of Reggie Wayne ready to go when Jennings contract is up. Nelson is decent, but he's not that guy. Perhaps Cobb or a player yet to be drafted. That's why it shouldn't surprise anyone - not just Wist - if the Packers select a WR in the first few rounds.
              If for some crazy reason we were to let Jennings walk TT still would not take a WR early in this class. He would wait until next years draft to find a replacement for him but you guys need to put down the bong because Jennings is not going anywhere.

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              • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                Buluga is not going to earn top dollar.

                A couple years ago nobody would have predicted that Wells would get the deal he just got. I wouldn't be so quick to speak in absolutes.

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                • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                  The Colts didn't hang on to Marshal Faulk.


                  I haven't crunched the numbers, but it seems like the value of franchise QB contracts as a percentage of the cap are rising over the last few years - leaving less money for the rest of the roster.
                  1) Faulk is a RB which is a lot easier to replace

                  2) Wayne and Freeney was not yet on the team

                  3) Peyton was still in his rookie contract

                  So Faulk really had nothing to do with them still being able to keep all their guys and you know why? Because they build their team thru the draft and didn't sign big name free agents... ummm that sounds familiar doesn't it?

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                  • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                    It's pretty obvious Driver is going to have to restructure his contract which I don't see him having any problem doing so. Guess that issue is solved!

                    Partially solved. I think there will still be a pretty significant gap between Driver's salary and his replacement - even after he restructures.

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                    • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                      A couple years ago nobody would have predicted that Wells would get the deal he just got. I wouldn't be so quick to speak in absolutes.
                      Just like you guys thought Sitton would make top dollar? Buluga is nice and all but he's no Joe Thomas.

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                      • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                        1) Faulk is a RB which is a lot easier to replace.

                        I think that's the crux of the argument. It will come down to how easy Jennings is to replace, and how much of a drop off there is between him and the rest of the WR's on the roster. If there's a big dropoff, I think he stays. But if were loaded at WR, all bets are off. IMO.

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                        • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          Just like you guys thought Sitton would make top dollar?


                          He's not exactly playing for chump change. 9th in the NFL.

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                          • I didn't say it was chump change but look for buluga to get a simliar deal which will not break the bank.

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                            • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                              Buluga is not going to earn top dollar. If Colts can hang onto for Peyton, Harrison, Wayne, and Freeney I see no reason why we will not be able to hang onto our guys. You guys keep acting that contacts like Woodson, Pickett, Driver, and maybe Collins aren't going to be off the books by the time we resign those guys. TT knows what he is doing and there is zero chance Jennings will leave, he's not that type of diva reciever who would leave to get mega dollars else where.
                              Sure, those you mentioned will come off the books, but they will need about three of those expiring contracts just for Rodgers alone.

                              No one is suggesting letting Jennings go and shorting the WR position, and personally I don't think it is likely that he will leave, because I don't expect they will have a new player (rookie or PS guy) capable of being a credible third receiver by 2013. But, at some point soon there will be players leaving that have a lot of useful years left. It happened this year with Wells. It will happen again.

                              Some insisted there was going to be plenty enough cap room to sign both Wells and Finley. In essence, they did neither. Wells is gone and Finley is in a holding pattern for a huge deal. Yet, without Clifton's release the Packers would not have had enough cap space for the rookie allotment they will be assigned.

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                              • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                                I didn't say it was chump change but look for buluga to get a simliar deal which will not break the bank.
                                I don't think anyone is saying Bulaga will break the bank, but there are many players coming up soon for deals. It's not realistic to think that all of them will be retained.
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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