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    Out of curiosity, and of course because the packers will certainly be looking to draft a sack artist in a few days, I decided to average the various features of the current top pass rushers in the league. I put everyone who had at least 10 sacks in either this year or last year (25 guys all together) into a spread sheet and looked up the following numbers from when they were drafted: Height, Weight, Arm length, 40 time, 10 yard split, Bench press reps, Vertical Jump, Broad Jump, 20 yard SS, and 3-Cone. The following is what the average NFL sack artist would look like as a prospect:

    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 258 lbs
    Arm Length: 33 1/4"
    40 time: 4.64
    10 yard split: 1.60
    Bench Press: 23 reps
    Vertical jump: 36.5"
    Broad Jump: 10'01"
    20 yard SS: 4.27
    3-Cone: 7.09

    Many of those numbers look very average but the jumps, SS, and 3-Cone are all quite high when compared to your average prospect. Take that for what it's worth but here are some of the things I noticed compared to this crop of prospects.

    Shea McClellin, has prototypical size, length, and speed for success with numbers nearly equal to my models. His shuttle and 3-Cone are also very close. The only measurable where he falls short is the vertical jump with just 31.5". That vertical would have been tied with JPP for 2nd worst on my spread sheet only better than Tamba Hali.

    Vinny Curry is close save for his broad jump which was only 9'03" which would be the lowest on my sheet if not for Tamba Hali's pittiful 8'10" jump. Curry is significantly stronger than is needed though with 28 reps and has a great 3-cone of 6.90s. He is one of the few in this class that is reasonably close to the lofty average vertical jump with his 35".

    Upshaw falls way low with arm length (32"), vertical (27), broad jump (9'01"), 20 yd ss (4.60), and 3-Cone (7.32). I don't expect him to ever compete with the NFL sack leaders. He does at least have 10 lbs on the average.

    Nick Perry exceeds the averages in weight (271), Bench Press (35), Vertical (38.5), Broad Jump (10'04"), but falls short 20 yard SS (4.66) which would be second worst on my sheet next to JPP. Perry seems like he'd be a much happier guy in a 4-3 but he has what it takes to be a good one.

    Bobby Wagner is a bit undersized for my average (6'00" and 241 lbs) but surpasses the averages in most ways including his vertical (39.5"), broad jump (11'00" which would be tied for best on my sheet), and the 40 (4.46). With a few more lbs Bobby Wagner could look the part of a sack artist.

    Bruce Irvin is a bit small and actually falls a wee bit short in the vertical with just 33.5" but kills the averages in the 40(4.5), ss(4.03), and 3c(6.70). The problems with Irvin aren't if he can get sacks but rather if he can stay out of trouble and do more than just win with speed.

    Miles Burris is pretty close to prototypical all over but stronger (31 reps) and faster in the 3C (6.81).

    Jake Bequette, the SEC sack leader, has better than average size (6'05" 274) poor speed (4.82s), sucks slightly on the jumps (34" and 9'05") but was pretty intriguing in the change of direction drills with a 4.07s time on the ss and a 6.90s 3-cone.
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    Vinny Curry is close save for his broad jump which was only 9'03" which would be the lowest on my sheet if not for Tamba Hali's pittiful 8'10" jump. Curry is significantly stronger than is needed though with 28 reps and has a great 3-cone of 6.90s. He is one of the few in this class that is reasonably close to the lofty average vertical jump with his 35".
    If the Packers drafted Curry I wonder if they would consider putting him at LOLB and moving Matthews back to ROLB where he would be coming at the QB's blind side. It would also mean Matthews wouldn't have to do battle with the more physical RT's and TE's on every running play.
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    • #3
      Miles Burris? Who's that?
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      • #4
        McClellin isn't just a pass rusher either. He does everything well. If we get him, I'm jumping for joy. Not that I know anything, but I'm jumping for joy cuz I think he's awesome!!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          Miles Burris? Who's that?
          Looks like he could play all linebacker positions. Haven't found too much on him. Best I could find:

          http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...l&player=34454

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
            McClellin isn't just a pass rusher either. He does everything well. If we get him, I'm jumping for joy. Not that I know anything, but I'm jumping for joy cuz I think he's awesome!!
            You gonna be able to control yourself if TT drafts McClellin and Derek Wolfe?
            I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              You gonna be able to control yourself if TT drafts McClellin and Derek Wolfe?
              TT could use the rest of his picks and only get TEs and WRs and I'd still be happier than a pig in slop if he gets those two. Well...not really, but I'd be pretty pumped.

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              • #8
                That 10 yard split looks pretty good for an average, doesn't it. Wasn't Matthews one of the quickest at 1.5x or something?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  That 10 yard split looks pretty good for an average, doesn't it. Wasn't Matthews one of the quickest at 1.5x or something?
                  At the time, his 10 yard of 1.49 was the fastest ever for a 240+ lb. player.
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                  While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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                  • #10
                    Ah, 1.49. That makes a difference.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
                      TT could use the rest of his picks and only get TEs and WRs and I'd still be happier than a pig in slop if he gets those two. Well...not really, but I'd be pretty pumped.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                        McClellin isn't just a pass rusher either. He does everything well. If we get him, I'm jumping for joy. Not that I know anything, but I'm jumping for joy cuz I think he's awesome!!
                        Shea McClellin has now made it to the TOP OLB position on NFL Access's **Mike Mayock's TOP 100 Board. Mayock has Shea McClellin all the way up to #14 on his TOP 100 board. Some people really LOVE this fella.

                        Shea McClellin is the third ranked OLB on Mike Millers FINAL 2012 NFL Draft Big Board and #31 ranked overall.

                        1. Melvin Ingram, South Carolina (No. 12 Overall) (3-4)
                        2. Courtney Upshaw, Alabama (No. 15 Overall) (3-4)
                        3. Shea McClellin, Boise State (No. 31 Overall) (3-4)

                        ESPN gives Shea McClellin a Grade of 92 out of 100; a Position Rank of NO.1 and Overall Rank of 21.

                        The only LBer ranked higher at #20 is ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama who also received a grade of 92.
                        Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-24-2012, 11:59 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          You gonna be able to control yourself if TT drafts McClellin and Derek Wolfe?
                          Justin & I will have lots of happy man hugs.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            Miles Burris? Who's that?
                            Miles Burris is at (No. 286 Overall) on Matt Miller's Final 2012 NFL Draft Big Board.

                            Here's some more on this fella:

                            Miles Burris, OLB, San Diego State, 6'3'', 235 lbs

                            Miles Burris is from the Sacramento, California area. He's a solid pass-rushing linebacker and at worst he can help on special teams. He's got potential to start and if he can be drafted this late would really help fill multiple needs for the Raiders.

                            3irty1...Nice job. (-:
                            Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-24-2012, 11:18 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              Miles Burris? Who's that?
                              Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                              Miles Burris, San Diego State (No. 286 Overall) on Matt Miller's Final 2012 NFL Draft Big Board
                              Matt Miller? Who's that?
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