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Well, if he was a woman we could pay him less.......SORRY, I couldn't resist.Originally posted by Smeefers View PostAll stupid issues of race aside...
I think it would be a mistake to take him in the first. I think it would be one helluva reach in the 1st. I wouldn't be opposed to moving up in the second to grab him though."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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From what I read you've already covered what they said his strengths are. Quality locker room guy, defensive leader, high motor, very intelligent, come on he went to Notre Dame! One thing that I liked that I read about him is he "knows football" and "has a great sense" on defense. I tend to like guys like that, especially in the position he would likely be playing.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostAnd does Smith have the intangibles that Ted values so highly? Team leader, quality person, hard worker, high motor, coachable, love the game?"I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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That's where I'm at with him. I'm hoping they can take someone who will have a shot at making a bigger impact, but they do need a safety. I'm doubtful about Collins' return, too.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostHarrison is the 2nd rated safety in this draft and something tells me Collins will not be back. I wouldn't be thrilled if would took him with our 1st pick but I wouldn't mad about it either.
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I definitely like the idea of moving up in the second to get him, especially if the first round pick nets a DE or OLB that can actually generate pressure. If I were to go to the effort to do a mock I'd include that move.Originally posted by Smeefers View PostI think it would be a mistake to take him in the first. I think it would be one helluva reach in the 1st. I wouldn't be opposed to moving up in the second to grab him though.2025 Ratpickers champion.
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I'm with Brandon. If all of these coveted pass rushers are gone (and those that are still there will more than likely still be there in round 2) Smith might be a good choice for us now that Collins has been waived seeing he is said to be the second highest rated safety in this draft.
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I've read the Michigan State safety, Trent Richardson (?) is an interesting prospect. He's very short (5'-9" I think) but can jump and leap like a six year old on Red Bull."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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i'm just not the excited about him after everything i've read about him. there are only two safeties in this draft class, and neither excite me.
and that really sucks for us
i still think we're better off moving c-wood to FS and drafting another CB.
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Well, I guess he wasn't a reach. You were right, I was wrong.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostDon't be surprised if TT drafts him if all pass rushers are off the board.
OVERVIEW
Smith is an ultra-athletic, big and smart safety who has roamed the secondary as a four-year starter and senior captain for Notre Dame. He is the type of safety who is always involved, using his quickness, recognition and overall body control to react effectively to plays. While he has just adequate speed, he makes up for this deficiency with strong play recognition and anticipation, and he is often in a position to make a play on the ball. Overall, Smith is a smart, athletic defender who should push to start early in a zone-heavy NFL scheme. Expect him to contend for a late first-round selection with the help of impressive postseason workouts and interviews.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Smith is an athletic, smart free safety. He is strong and has great size for the position, and he shows up in the run game as effectively as he does against the pass. He stands out as a lengthy athlete who has range to match NFL speed across the defensive backfield. He is extremely reliable and effective in run support, which comes from his ability to read and react to plays on a quick twitch off the snap. Smith was very productive in college and rarely misses. He is a drag-down tackler who is always around the ball. Although he may have to catch and rarely delivers a blow, he is consistent. As a pass-defender, he is able to read the ball in the air and make plays all across the back end of the defense. He is able to read the quarterback well in zone and uses his athletic ability to turn and run to make plays on the ball. He is a long-strider as a runner and can turn and ignite a quick burst to run down a receiver downfield. He can then utilize his length to make strong plays on the ball. If he is in position, he will make the big interception.
WEAKNESSES Smith can struggle when covering man to man. He often finds himself in a poor position when the ball is thrown. Short area movements are of a concern somewhat, so he will be much better in a read-and-react zone defense in which he can rely on instincts and recognition more than athletic ability. While he shows up as a solid athlete in every other aspect of his game, his technique in man coverage will expose some inconsistencies in his footwork, as he often relies too heavily on his recover ability and overall length to make plays on the ball. Though he is a somewhat fluid athlete, he can be beaten by quick-twitch and explosive movers.- Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.
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At Round Four Position 38 and Pick # 133 Overall Ted Thompson picked Jerron McMillian, MAINE. S. I. Grade 2.30 and Ranked by Sports illustrated as the 19th best prospect at Safety.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostIt seems there is a big dropoff after Barron and Smith.
2.34 to 1.99 -- Practice Squad -- Late-round draft pick or priority free agent that must develop his talents on the practice squad
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...#ixzz1tcgIBPlK
The #3 ranked 'safety' was sitting on the board... George Iloka.Grade 2.80
S.I.Grade:
3.09 to 2.75 -- First-Year Contributor -- Prospect that has the ability to make plays from the get-go and start early into his rookie season.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...#ixzz1tch4iCJb
When TT selected Jerron McMillian besides the #3 ranked safety George Iloka there were another eight (8) higher ranked safety's on the board; nine (9) total.
One of those was S Antonio Allen,S. Carolina, ** Grade 2.59 who was picked by the NY Jets in the 7th round at Pick #242 or the pick sandwich'd between TT's last two picks of the draft of T Andrew Danko, Grade 2.45 and QB B.J. Coleman, *** Grade 2.34.
** Future Starter -- A good athlete that must learn to be a football player or someone who is an "overachiever". Quality prospect with long term potential.
*** Practice Squad -- Late-round draft pick or priority free agent that must develop his talents on the practice squad
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