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  • #16
    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
    Re the new cb if Sheilds can overcome his sophmore slump Haywood will not need as much speed as he will not be covering the fast wr's that our other two cb's will. He will be used to get the mid routes which is his skill set.

    Al Harris was never very fast. It's not all about the 40 time.

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    • #17
      There was another 3rd round CB the Packers got without elite speed named McKenzie and he was doing quite well (Milli and Vanilli) until his injury.

      Pete Dougherty made a point about big DTs being scouted. Almost everyone has a scouting report that says he takes plays off. Even Mike Neal had that reputation. Now we just wish Mike Neal would take a day off from the weight room.

      I think the role playing idea is correct. These might be some of Thompson's most need picks. The thing the first two can do well without question is be quick and get pressure.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #18
        Anyone concerned about the scouts saying Worthy can't shed a block, is lazy and not trustworthy?
        The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
        Vince Lombardi

        "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
          Anyone concerned about the scouts saying Worthy can't shed a block, is lazy and not trustworthy?
          Sounds like he'll fit right in with our current crew at RDE, Fos!

          That makes the kid a team player.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
            Anyone concerned about the scouts saying Worthy can't shed a block, is lazy and not trustworthy?
            Ya.....not a whole lot of praise for his work ethic. Obviously TT and the crew think they can coach and motivate the guy but we'll see I guess.
            C.H.U.D.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
              Anyone concerned about the scouts saying Worthy can't shed a block, is lazy and not trustworthy?


              Those are the warts that made him available to us in the 2nd.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                Anyone concerned about the scouts saying Worthy can't shed a block, is lazy and not trustworthy?
                And still an upgrade. If he can survive the weight room and take up some attention to free Clay and/or Raji I'm okay with him. If not its not like we can get worse than last year, is it?
                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                George Orwell

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                • #23
                  That's the key....what are they going to ask him to do? Play nose on certain downs and free up the playmakers?
                  C.H.U.D.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
                    That's the key....what are they going to ask him to do? Play nose on certain downs and free up the playmakers?

                    They need to keep Raji at the Nose where he can tear it up. I think he can play nose but I bet he plays more DE
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #25
                      He is not a NT. He needs to be one on one. I think there is a chance he is better at DE in a 3-4 than he was at DT in a 4-3.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                        They need to keep Raji at the Nose where he can tear it up. I think he can play nose but I bet he plays more DE

                        I wonder if they asked him to play too many downs last year.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          He is not a NT. He needs to be one on one. I think there is a chance he is better at DE in a 3-4 than he was at DT in a 4-3.
                          That would rock.
                          C.H.U.D.

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                          • #28
                            Another DT
                            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                            George Orwell

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                            • #29
                              If Hayward is to play slot, the lack of long speed isn't as glaring. He's a willing tackler and a very quick player.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                                Anyone concerned about the scouts saying Worthy can't shed a block, is lazy and not trustworthy?
                                Watch the Georgia game. he can shed a block. Also, he's so quick that often it's hard for the linemen to get their paws on him in the first place. He gets past their shoulder and he's got an angle. That will work when GB asks him to get upfield. I suspect they may be more worried about the 'dancing bear' if he's asked to 2-gap it.
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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