Draft Grades

[mmmdk]

All this talking head draft love can't be good.

You have failed me for the last time, Admiral Thompson! Better?

[pack4to84]

As dominating as Worthy was when he played full out. Coach new if he was just out there other team still would have to double team him taking 2 OL out of the picture. If Worthy came to the sideline to rest the other DL men that replace him wouldn't have gotten the same attention. In the NFL rotation would be key for him. Every time he is out there 90% to 100% he would be a beast.

[hoosier]

The best line I've seen in a post-draft grade in some time, from Walter Football, which gave TT a grade of D for the McMillian pick:

The Packers had to find a safety, but they should have drafted someone in the fourth round who was actually in the top 225 of a major big board.

If that doesn't point up the futility of assigning post-draft grades, nothing does.

[MadScientist]

All this talking head draft love can't be good.

The talking heads love any draft when you trade up and address needs. The real test will be if we picked the right guys or not, which they can't answer (yet).

I think more specifically, the talking heads like a GM doing what they would have done. It makes them feel like they aren't completely clueless idiots.

[Guiness]

The best line I've seen in a post-draft grade in some time, from Walter Football, which gave TT a grade of D for the McMillian pick:

The Packers had to find a safety, but they should have drafted someone in the fourth round who was actually in the top 225 of a major big board.

If that doesn't point up the futility of assigning post-draft grades, nothing does.

lol

I suspect he was at least on one 'big board' that mattered - TT's!

[Lurker64]

The best line I've seen in a post-draft grade in some time, from Walter Football, which gave TT a grade of D for the McMillian pick: If that doesn't point up the futility of assigning post-draft grades, nothing does.

The funny thing is when the Packers picked Nick Collins, a lot of people were complaining about them taking a sixth round CB in the second.

It's not like there weren't people who were "top 225 on a major board" that TT could have picked in the fourth instead of McMillan, and it's not like there weren't "consensus second round CBs" that TT could have taken instead of Collins. It's just that TT disagreed with the consensus opinion.

It's not like agreeing with the consensus opinion is for the best, since "drafting off Mel Kiper's board" is pretty much how the Bengals do business.

[Guiness]

The funny thing is when the Packers picked Nick Collins, a lot of people were complaining about them taking a sixth round CB in the second.

It's not like there weren't people who were "top 225 on a major board" that TT could have picked in the fourth instead of McMillan, and it's not like there weren't "consensus second round CBs" that TT could have taken instead of Collins. It's just that TT disagreed with the consensus opinion.

It's not like agreeing with the consensus opinion is for the best, since "drafting off Mel Kiper's board" is pretty much how the Bengals do business.

Pete Prisco thinks it's a great idea!

The Cincinnati Bengals have been the punch line for a lot of jokes, many of those aimed at owner/general manager Mike Brown.
The Bengals have a skimpy scouting staff and other teams privately laugh at how they refuse to spend bigger on scouting.
Maybe Mike Brown has it right. After all, his team had the best draft of any of the 32 NFL teams this year.
I gave the Bengals an A+, a three-day pick-a-thon that netted them a lot of good football players. It helped that they had extra picks because of their trade of Carson Palmer to the Raiders last year, but it's what they did with all those picks that truly impressed.
I see the Bengals adding 10 solid football players, all with a chance to make the team, even sixth-round running back Dan Herron from Ohio State. Top pick Dre' Kirkpatrick will likely be a Week 1 starter while several others have a chance to start.
That's dominating a draft. Here are big props to Mike Brown and the Bengals, who might be laughing at the rest of the league now.

[Lurker64]

Pete Prisco thinks it's a great idea!

The Bengals draft grades are generally disproportionately high compared to the actual collection football talent they end up assembling, generally because the Broncos draft room is more driven by groupthink than other teams'.

[hoosier]

The funny thing is when the Packers picked Nick Collins, a lot of people were complaining about them taking a sixth round CB in the second.

It's not like there weren't people who were "top 225 on a major board" that TT could have picked in the fourth instead of McMillan, and it's not like there weren't "consensus second round CBs" that TT could have taken instead of Collins. It's just that TT disagreed with the consensus opinion.

It's not like agreeing with the consensus opinion is for the best, since "drafting off Mel Kiper's board" is pretty much how the Bengals do business.

He disagreed with a certain consensus. But who knows what kind of interest there was in McMillian among teams drafting in the early fifth round. The hilarious aspects of the Walter football line are its inability to see the difference between the crushes that pundits develop for certain players (which in turn lead to "major big boards") and the kind of knowledge that comes from serious, professional scouting; and its wilfull blindness to organizational track records. After five years of his drafts, when TT picks a name I've never heard of, my response is not "wtf" but rather "I suspect this is going to be a good one." I know that even if I had the time to watch college football every weekend of the season, I would still know nothing compared to a professional scout or GM. I guess that makes me one step less ignorant than Walter football.

[woodbuck27]

I feel like I don't even know you anymore.

Hope you're recovering well from your surgery.

TT really stayed focused this draft. Impressive and aggressive. great to see. He's learning.

[Iron Mike]

Give TT an A this year.

And where is Herbert Goodman now???