Packers Depth Chart

[Smeefers]

I don't think it can be understated how good DD is for the other receivers. He is definitely the bell cow of the group and his work ethic and knack for the small things of the position really seem to rub off on the rest of the group. Now that we have our slot receiver of the future I want Driver around as a role model. DD is a paragon of receiving wide.

This reminds me of pretty much any time you saw our wide recievers together in an interview or something. They always looked to driver to start an answer. He's the unquestionable leader of that WR Corps. I'm not saying they need him like they did 2 years ago when Jordy and Jones were still really raw and Jennings hadn't come into his own, but you can see him as a type of father figure to these other guys. I can still see Jennings doing stuff driver used to do to get an extra yard. I don't see it quite as much in Jordy, but I also see it in James. Maybe he is gone this year, maybe not. I just have a real hard time seeing them dump him for someone who can't play as well yet.

[Upnorth]

If Gurley or Borel truley out play Driver, I hope he see's the writing on the wall. Further to that I hope TT see's the writing on the WR's face and make Driver a coach. He knows the position, knows this offense and knows the players. How many times have we seen cut aways to him talking things out with the other receivers or qb's he has been playing with?

[pbmax]

All this arguing about whether Driver has dropped off enough to be cut is pointless, he is still more talented than Jones. Cut Jones keep Driver, that's pretty simple, and you all make it sound like TT's job is tough

Driver is not more talented than Jones at this point. Better at finding a hole in the zone? Maybe.

[pbmax]

Speaking of bad tackling, courtesy of Mike Vandermause, some info about the culprits:

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause
Those #Packers missed tackle numbers according to http://Profootballfocus.com

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause
Worst offenders for #Packers missed tackles in 2011: Woodson 18, Tramon Williams 16, Peprah 11, Shields 10, Burnett 9, Bishop 8, Hawk 8.

https://twitter.com/#!/MikeVandermause/status/197113197684195329

[Upnorth]

Speaking of bad tackling, courtesy of Mike Vandermause, some info about the culprits:

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause
Those #Packers missed tackle numbers according to http://Profootballfocus.com

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause
Worst offenders for #Packers missed tackles in 2011: Woodson 18, Tramon Williams 16, Peprah 11, Shields 10, Burnett 9, Bishop 8, Hawk 8.


https://twitter.com/#!/MikeVandermau...13197684195329

Ouch. So were all the missed tackels due to them positioning themselves to inctercept the ball?

[Smeefers]

Speaking of bad tackling, courtesy of Mike Vandermause, some info about the culprits:

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause
Those #Packers missed tackle numbers according to http://Profootballfocus.com

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause
Worst offenders for #Packers missed tackles in 2011: Woodson 18, Tramon Williams 16, Peprah 11, Shields 10, Burnett 9, Bishop 8, Hawk 8.


https://twitter.com/#!/MikeVandermau...13197684195329

Wood did have a pretty crappy year last year. I do remember that.

Man, we get half those numbers back and our defense isn't so horrible. Yuck. Our secondary accounted for 64 missed tackles.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Driver is not more talented than Jones at this point. Better at finding a hole in the zone? Maybe.

Agreed. The only question is whether he's more talented than Gurley. If it's close, he's likely gone. That's why I say a lot of this depends on Gurley. Or perhaps Borel.

[Smidgeon]

I think we are one step ahead of ourselves here. Driver was not the #5 receiver last year. Didn't he get the third most snaps? Is Driver really going to want to be behind Jones AND Cobb?

I doubt he expects to be, paycut or no. A lot depends on where the Packers expect his playing time to be. If he will truly be the fifth, is that a situation either side is comfortable with?

He had the third most snaps mid-season, and I think it's relatively safe to assume that continued. But in receptions, he was the fourth WR and the fifth total receiver (Finley) in receptions. He had twelve more receptions than Cobb, but they were also tied mid-season. So Driver stepped up, Cobb hit a wall, or teams figured out they could cover Driver with a linebacker.

Driver also had the lowest yards per reception out of the five receivers and Finley. Not a lot to be trumpeting for someone who's "still got it" and "still lightning quick".

If Driver did get the third most snaps (and I'm guessing there's a big drop off between the #3 and #4 WR in that category), then he was the most inefficient receiver on the field.

[denverYooper]

Oh hes definitely going to have to take a pay cut which I don't think he'll have any problem doing.

The possibility of going out with another ring is probably worth quite a bit for 'ol Dud.

[Joemailman]

No way Driver loses out to a Gurley man.

[mraynrand]

Agreed. The only question is whether he's more talented than Gurley. If it's close, he's likely gone. That's why I say a lot of this depends on Gurley. Or perhaps Borel.

Or Driver

[Smeefers]

Driver also had the lowest yards per reception out of the five receivers and Finley. Not a lot to be trumpeting for someone who's "still got it" and "still lightning quick".

Did Someone really call driver "lightning quick?" I mean, I know he's not wobbling out there with a walker or anything, but he's definitely the slowest of our WR's. No one here is saying Driver is as good as he used to be. What we're saying is that he's still solid and dependable and he does still have some moves. Also, I don't think anyone is suggesting that if one of the prospects is better than Driver that we keep driver over the superior prospect. What we're arguing is that you shouldn't drop Driver for a chance at something greater, you drop him when you're sure you've got something greater.

[sharpe1027]

Or Driver

Exactly. It is not so much about a new WR stepping up as it is how much Driver continues to go downhill. For the record, I readily admit that he might have another good year in him, but to blindly assume he's not going to drop off further due to age is somewhat naive, IMHO.

[Smidgeon]

Did Someone really call driver "lightning quick?" I mean, I know he's not wobbling out there with a walker or anything, but he's definitely the slowest of our WR's. No one here is saying Driver is as good as he used to be. What we're saying is that he's still solid and dependable and he does still have some moves. Also, I don't think anyone is suggesting that if one of the prospects is better than Driver that we keep driver over the superior prospect. What we're arguing is that you shouldn't drop Driver for a chance at something greater, you drop him when you're sure you've got something greater.

Driver is still serviceable. He's not fast, but he is still extremely quick.

It wasn't an exact quote, but it was close.

[Bossman641]

The Packer offense ran 1,080 plays during the year

Here is the breakdown of snap counts for Finley and the WR.

Finley - 833 (77.1%)
Jennings - 675 (62.4%)
Nelson - 633 (58.6%)
Driver - 519 (48.1%)
Jones - 516 (47.8%)
Cobb - 287 (26.6%)

Cobb has too much potential for there to be that large of a discrepancy between his snaps and Driver's. Nelson and Jones work primarily on the outside. Jennings and Finley can do both. Cobb and Driver are better in the slot. I'd imagine Gurley would primarily work outside the hashes. Assuming Borel is more of a slot guy? I haven't seen enough of him to know if he could work outside.