RON WOLF - DOESN'T SEE A CONTENDER - YET, CONFIDENCE IN TT

[mmmdk]

Packers not contenders? Damn! This is thursday, right!?

[woodbuck27]

I pretty much agree with Wolf. I think the Packers are a few years away. I think they will next be a contender with Aaron Rodgers at the helm, not Brett Favre.

Maybe?

Many have come and many have - G O N E !!!

Brett Favre is under Contract GregJennings - through 2011.

GO PACKERS! HOLD THE FAITH in 2006 and BEYOND !!

[Creepy]

Wolfe is entitled to his opinion. Ijust don't agree with him. To say a teamis not a SB contender is BS. Some teams need work and are too far behind to make the play-offs or are in divsions where the bestteams are elite teams. The North does not have an elite team, teh Bears have a great defense but cannot be an eliteteam until the offense gets better. This division is up in the air and whoever gets to the play-offs automaticly beomes a SB contending team.

Who thought the Rams were a SB contender the year they won it. Everybody was sure the Ravens didn't have enough offense to go all the way, and the Patriots were supposed to get their butts kicked by the Rams the first time.

None of these teams were considered SB contenders in August, but by January 2 were wearing SB rings and one a NFC champinship ring.

Rams in 1998 were 4-12 - Won SB the next year
Patriots in 2000 were 5-11 - Won SB the next year
Atlanta in 1997 were 7-9 - Made SB next year (Lost to Broncos)

In the last ten years 3 teams with losing seasons and considered not SB contenders went to 3 and won 2 SBs. This does not mean I think GB is ready today for a SB appearance, but win the division and go into the play-offs. Once in the play-offs anything can happen.

Do I seea SB team in GB right now? No. Do I see a team that can make the play-offs? Yes. And like I said before, "Once in the play-offs, anything can happen".

[woodbuck27]

Wolfe is entitled to his opinion. Ijust don't agree with him. To say a teamis not a SB contender is BS. Some teams need work and are too far behind to make the play-offs or are in divsions where the bestteams are elite teams. The North does not have an elite team, teh Bears have a great defense but cannot be an eliteteam until the offense gets better. This division is up in the air and whoever gets to the play-offs automaticly beomes a SB contending team.

Who thought the Rams were a SB contender the year they won it. Everybody was sure the Ravens didn't have enough offense to go all the way, and the Patriots were supposed to get their butts kicked by the Rams the first time.

None of these teams were considered SB contenders in August, but by January 2 were wearing SB rings and one a NFC champinship ring.

Rams in 1998 were 4-12 - Won SB the next year
Patriots in 2000 were 5-11 - Won SB the next year
Atlanta in 1997 were 7-9 - Made SB next year (Lost to Broncos)

In the last ten years 3 teams with losing seasons and considered not SB contenders went to 3 and won 2 SBs. This does not mean I think GB is ready today for a SB appearance, but win the division and go into the play-offs. Once in the play-offs anything can happen.

Do I seea SB team in GB right now? No. Do I see a team that can make the play-offs? Yes. And like I said before, "Once in the play-offs, anything can happen".

Way to show "the faith", Creepy !!

GO PACKERS ! HOLD FAITH FOR OUR TEAM in 2006 and BEYOND !!

[Creepy]

Anytime I feel that Gb looks bad and has no receivers I get out my old PFW (Pro Football Weekly) paers and read about J. Staggers, B. Smith, from the 70s.

Complain about the QBs, just open a PFW and read about Hadl, Hunter, Tagge, Del Gazio.........uuhhh! starting to get queasey.

I remeber Rbs that couldn't find holes and OL who seemed to only plug holes. So it is easier for me to be optimistic.

[jack's smirking revenge]

I'd love to see this team grow into a collection of people who believe they can win. And who believe they will win.

But right now, I'd like to see Packer fans who believe we can and will win. There are more here I think than on the other two forums I visit. But still, I've never seen the fan belief who would all show up at a game and burn sage like the Rams fans.

I think you know where I stand after the last couple of days. I believe we can win, but I don't believe we will win. Not much this year anyway. I am very intrigued about next year.

Nice to have a former legendary GM like Wolf in my corner.

Love the Pack, but don't think they'll do much in 2006 (but I'll still watch them).

tyler

[jack's smirking revenge]

Wolfe is entitled to his opinion. Ijust don't agree with him. To say a teamis not a SB contender is BS.....Do I seea SB team in GB right now? No. Do I see a team that can make the play-offs? Yes. And like I said before, "Once in the play-offs, anything can happen".

Your "To say the team is not a SB contender is BS" line seems pretty common these days, but you came dangerously close to contradicting yourself in your own post.

Point A: "To say a team is not a SB contender is BS"
Point B: "Do I see a SB team in GB right now? No."

You essentially said that they're not a contender.

tyler

[woodbuck27]

I'd love to see this team grow into a collection of people who believe they can win. And who believe they will win.

But right now, I'd like to see Packer fans who believe we can and will win. There are more here I think than on the other two forums I visit. But still, I've never seen the fan belief who would all show up at a game and burn sage like the Rams fans.

I think you know where I stand after the last couple of days. I believe we can win, but I don't believe we will win. Not much this year anyway. I am very intrigued about next year.

Nice to have a former legendary GM like Wolf in my corner.

I still Love the Pack, but don't think they'll do much in 2006 (but I'll still watch them).

tyler

tyler your a good Packer fan.

To be realistic = drawing criticism from more optimistic fans and fans that want to remain 100% positive.

That instills in me, a unique faith in Packer fans. It's ALL good tyler.

You will have lots, I trust tyler, to cheer for in 2006.

Even if it's to enjoy Brett Favre's and Ahman Green's last hurrah's, for good bad or indifferent - we will remain solid supporters of OUR team. ALL of us on this forum are locked into - just this.

The Green Bay Packers. It's going to be OK !!

[jack's smirking revenge]

Woodbuck, you continue to be the bridge between those of us who....how should I put it without getting into the pessimist/optimist/realist terms?....are crictical of this team and those of us that are not. Thank you for stretching yourself to be that person.

I hate that I have to continually temper my criticism with...

1) I have and will always be a Packer fan
2) I bleed Green and Gold (yes, a G&G transfusion was performed)
3) I will cheer for them in 2006 no matter what

Am I down on them right now? Yes. Will they be exciting this year, even if they're 4-12 again? Yes. Why?

2007.

tyler

[Creepy]

JSR,

You pick one sentence and overlook the rest. I explain of otherteams that were considered in August not SB contenders who either went or won the SB. My statement do not contradict, but are more reasonable.

The onlytemas that will be SB contenders are those in the play-offs. At this momnet in time do I see GB in the SB? No. Do I see a play-off team? Yes, and a play-off team is a SB contender. Hense remember the word contender, you don't have to play in the SB to be a contender.

Again, I may be more optimistic than other fans, but with our division there is a chance for any team to make the play-offs, even though the Lions may be a stretch.