TMZ Reporting Junior Seau Is Dead

[woodbuck27]

so sad from this news. I LOVED Junior. In middle school I wore #55 for football because of him (94-95 school years). He was such a great person with so much love and giving back that it's so hard to see something like this happen. The more these things happen the more I hope the NFL wakes up to these head injuries. Junior is the EIGHTH player from the 94 Chargers Super Bowl team that is dead...that's amazing to me, and saddening. I love this game, but it definitely has it's down side, much of which I'm concerned about with my own health in life. I pray Junior is safe now in the loving arms of God, and his pain is gone...no more sorrow, no more tears.

A sensatibe heartfelt post man. Congratulations.

[mission]

Me, too...Scott. Glad you didn't do it, Mission. Things can get bad quick, but life is way too precious to just end it.

Thanks guys. It's amazing where I'm at now with my family and career to think that things were ever that bad. I had a way out and took it, but at that moment(s) it's teetering on a very fine line, and for some, there's too much weight on the wrong end. Had I had to go through what I did then, in addition to (for example) my wife leaving and not seeing my kids every day, it would have killed me somehow. Didn't have a family then. Others get it piled on from ALL angles ... whatever it is, no one will really know. Hard to believe maybe but I'm actually a really positive, upbeat guy, I've never had depression. Just lost a business, all my money, partied too much and generally dug myself into a massive hole. Just had to get back to being me.

I read somewhere else about the depression these football players face after the league. Everything from financial issues, to marital breakups (lose your money, lose your wife), to broken down body, to adrenaline-to-nothing lifestyle... media is making it a big a concussion thing and I'm sure that's part of it. These guys' lives literally CHANGE in almost a heartbeat. Most people don't really experience something to that extent.

Sad stuff... always respected Seau. RIP

[woodbuck27]

Clearly standing under the goalposts for pictures in a thunderstorm was a bad idea.

Seau drive off a cliff last year and there was chatter some of those investigating it thought it was a suicide attempt. He claimed to have fallen asleep.

Schefter reports Seau did not appear on any injury reports listed as suffering from a concussion. But he was listed 6 times for bell ringing.

"Seau drive off a cliff last year and there was chatter some of those investigating it thought it was a suicide attempt
" pbmax

That's right and I forgot about that till you posted it pbmax.

Suicide is difficult for those left behind. So often it just comes out of nowhere but in this case Junior Seau left warnings he was on that dark path.It's too sad that he didn't ask for the proper assistance he needed. This was a man that at least seemed to be trying to make a difference. We never really know even about those closest to us sometimes.

Harlan posted the query RE: a possible question of a link to 'a concussion'.That issue is growing all the time.

[woodbuck27]

Given how bad these things can go, I say maybe this worked out as well as it could. Absolutely you'd like to see the guy get help and recover. But, given that he didn't, it's a blessing he didn't kill anyone else on the way out. Here in Cleveland a guy at the Cracker Barrel barged in on his ex-wife and two 10 year-old daughters celebrating their birthday and shot the mother and one daughter dead on the spot. He took half the brain off the other daughter and she is currently in the ICU on a machine. Police shot him dead in the parking lot. So given what happens all too often, I say it could have been a lot worse. Seau gets my prayers for God's mercy on his soul, and, if he contemplated killing others and only took himself, he gets some of my admiration too.

Nice post.

[woodbuck27]

Thanks guys. It's amazing where I'm at now with my family and career to think that things were ever that bad. I had a way out and took it, but at that moment(s) it's teetering on a very fine line, and for some, there's too much weight on the wrong end. Had I had to go through what I did then, in addition to (for example) my wife leaving and not seeing my kids every day, it would have killed me somehow. Didn't have a family then. Others get it piled on from ALL angles ... whatever it is, no one will really know. Hard to believe maybe but I'm actually a really positive, upbeat guy, I've never had depression. Just lost a business, all my money, partied too much and generally dug myself into a massive hole. Just had to get back to being me.

I read somewhere else about the depression these football players face after the league. Everything from financial issues, to marital breakups (lose your money, lose your wife), to broken down body, to adrenaline-to-nothing lifestyle... media is making it a big a concussion thing and I'm sure that's part of it. These guys' lives literally CHANGE in almost a heartbeat. Most people don't really experience something to that extent.

Sad stuff... always respected Seau. RIP

Some people like you fight real battles and win them. CONGRATULATIONS and good luck man.

Life does offer second chances as we decide we deserve one. Life is way too precious to toss away and there's a victory around every corner.

[George Cumby]

I read somewhere else about the depression these football players face after the league. Everything from financial issues, to marital breakups (lose your money, lose your wife), to broken down body, to adrenaline-to-nothing lifestyle... media is making it a big a concussion thing and I'm sure that's part of it. These guys' lives literally CHANGE in almost a heartbeat. Most people don't really experience something to that extent.

All the other stuff aside, this, IMO, is the core point. These guys have been treated differently from the rest of us schlubs from high school on. Adored, fawned over, feted, lionized, etc, etc, etc. for twenty some years in Seau's case. Then "Boom!" it's over. How does one adapt to a normal life after living in the limelight? How does one make that transition? How does one pass through that transition intact, yet alone gracefully?

Obviously, it's not so easy.

Seau's public persona seemed likeable enough. I enjoyed watching him play and he did good charitable work.

Unfortunate.

[Pugger]

I too truly suspect Seau was attempting suicide when he drove his SUV off that cliff last year. They say folks who kill themselves have at least one previous attempt before they are 'successful'. This entire situation is tragic for his family in particular. How sad that he never got the help he desperately needed.

[Smidgeon]

Maybe woodbuck posted it, but since I have him on ignore, I can't say for sure. However, PFT posted and interview with Lorenzo Neal regarding his insight into Seau.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/lorenzo-neal-reflects-on-the-pressures-of-being-junior-seau/

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/will-b...b_1473829.html

Seau is the 8th member of the 1994 Super Bowl Chargers to die. They left us in a variety of fashions -- a couple died in freak accidents, several died from heart conditions, and two of the deaths appeared to be linked to substance abuse or drunk driving .... The average American lives to be 75. The average pro football player lives to be 55. And statistics suggest that the longer a player stays in the game, the more likely he is to die at a young age.

[Scott Campbell]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/will-b...b_1473829.html

Seau is the 8th member of the 1994 Super Bowl Chargers to die. They left us in a variety of fashions -- a couple died in freak accidents, several died from heart conditions, and two of the deaths appeared to be linked to substance abuse or drunk driving .... The average American lives to be 75. The average pro football player lives to be 55. And statistics suggest that the longer a player stays in the game, the more likely he is to die at a young age.

I think the cumulative effect of these latest deaths and the lawsuits could blow up pretty soon. We could be in for some massive changes.

[Fritz]

Until one of my old students mentioned it on Facebook, I didn't realize that he's the 8th member of the 1994 AFC champion Chargers to die young already. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...to-94-chargers

One of your old students? So does that mean you are one of those lazy-ass, overpaid teachers who are ruining America?

[Zool]

Linebacker Doug Miller was struck by lightning. That's just bad luck.

[Guiness]

All seems very strange. By the sounds of it, he had a decent support system. A girlfriend, close to his mother, had a charity set up. Seems like he should've had enough to keep him going and busy. I understand what some are saying, that football ends and there's a huge vacuum that's hard to fill, but by all accounts he seemed to be well positioned to handle that.

We're all looking at this from 50,000' though. None of us really know what was going on in his life.

[Guiness]

Linebacker Doug Miller was struck by lightning. That's just bad luck.

pb said he was standing under goalposts in a thunderstorm. Would that make it football related? (I suspect he was being facetious...)

Rodney Culver went down in a plane crash.

[ThunderDan]

Doug Miller was struck by lightning??? Well, you can hardly blame that on football.

That isn't the half of it. Doug Miller was struck by lightning. People were with him and started doing CPR to save him. While performing CPR Doug was struck by lightning again and killed. At least that's what I heard on NFL Channel on Sirius Radio.