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How much of those numbers depends on a scheme where the WRs down to #5 are all involved? I bet Cobb's numbers as the #5 receiver were way out of this world when compared to other #5s. All these numbers show is that Green Bay's scheme is different. Except for maybe New Orleans.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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I thought that was 2010, where they said he was OK but clearly wasn't feeling it until that San Fran catch and run. In 2011, the only game without a catch was Week 3 versus the Bears.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostWasn't last year the year where he played a couple games without a catch ? If you watched him run he was hobbling around everywhereBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Its impressive, but the list itself is problematic. Several receivers are terrible and played as the fourth only because of injuries or contract situations (West, Brown). Several players here were better than the 4th WR but were hurt (Hester, Rice).Originally posted by OS PA View PostNumbers
Driver was
76th in yards
67th in receptions
74th in 1st downs
26th in touchdowns
He had the 4th best numbers for a WR on our team. Here are the numbers for all of the other 4th ranked wide receivers on their teams.
BUF - Donald Jones - 23 rec, 231 yards, 1 td
CHI - Devin Hester - 26 rec, 369 yards, 1td
CIN - Andrew Hawkins - 23 rec, 263 yards, 0 tds
CLE - Jordan Norwood - 23 rec, 268 yards, 1 td
GB - Donald Driver - 37 rec, 445 yards, 6 tds
JAC - Chastin West - 13 rec, 163 yards, 2 tds
NO - Devery Henderson - 32 rec, 503 yards, 2 tds
PIT - Emmanuel Sanders - 22 rec, 288 yards, 2 tds
SD - Vincent Brown - 19 rec, 329 yards, 2 tds
SEA - Sidney Rice - 32 rec, 484 yards, 2 tds
STL - Austin Pettis - 27 rec, 256 yards, 0 tds
TB - Arrelious Benn - 30 rec, 441 yards, 3 tds
To say that Driver was unproductive, uneffective, too old, too slow, and or not good is just flat out wrong. He was by and large the most effective fourth wide receiver on any team. He's insurance at this point in his career. Nothing more, but certainly nothing less. Let the numbers speak for themselves.
Second, Driver should be the 3rd WR as he started at WR in 14 games and played the slot in 3 and 4 WR combos. He also played 16 games for the first or second most prolific offense in football. So relative to chances, his production looks more limited. And I think my question still stands, what would Cobb have done in his place?
All else being equal, he probably deserves a full shot at #5. But no one stays the same. He is getting older and is more expensive than the PS guys and he will not be on STs.
BTW, if was nice seeing preseason favorite Chastin "Toolbelt" West on the list, even if it was for the Jags.Last edited by pbmax; 05-07-2012, 10:21 AM.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Point made, but you are kinda setting up a strawman argument. Did anyone say that last year he was all of those things? I sure didn't, and I am not sure that anyone else saying anything that strong about his play last year either. My opinion is that the writing is on the wall (right or wrong), he's not getting younger and this year he is unlikely to be as good as last year. That might be enough of a dip that he doesn't make the team. It has to happen sometime and looking only at the past year will guarantee you keep him one year too many.Originally posted by OS PA View PostTo say that Driver was unproductive, uneffective, too old, too slow, and or not good is just flat out wrong. He was by and large the most effective fourth wide receiver on any team. He's insurance at this point in his career. Nothing more, but certainly nothing less. Let the numbers speak for themselves.
For the sake of argument, assume that Driver's stats this coming year were nearly the same as last year (almost no drop off from age at all). Most people would be OK with him staying, so long as no other new WR showed a lot of ability and promise. I'm just saying there's a reasonable chance he is going to dip further next year, it must happen at some point and there is no good reason to deny that it might be this year.
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It's hard to imagine the Packers without Donald Driver, but the team is so deep at wide receiver, he might not have a home in Green Bay come September.
Donald Driver might be odd man out in Green Bay.
By Marc Sessler NFL.com Writer- Published: May 11, 2012 at 08:55 a.m.
- Updated: May 11, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
It's hard to imagine the Packers minus Driver. He's been with the team since 1999, playing in 192 games during that span. The organization understands Driver remains an intensely popular figure in Green Bay, but as the team pieces together a roster geared on playoff revenge, it's no sure thing the veteran will be around for one more season." Fr. Story
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