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  • #46
    To Pellman's credit, he was advised by someone (no mention of whom) to get Al Toon to a Neuropsychologist for testing. From this point on, Pellman appears to have used the same resource to do testing and base-lining. However, this was the very same data that was selectively used in Pellman's study on the cumulative effects of suffering concussions on active players.

    Pellman and his Jets' neuropsychologist consultant Barr later had a falling out over Barr's participation and comments about the NCAA concussion study. The NCAA study had helped determine that baseline tests were best to perform 7 - 10 days after injury (meaning a player diagnosed with a concussion would be out a minimum of a week). Pellman took this as an attack on the NFL's methods and Barr claimed that Pellman asked him to clear any further public comments on concussions with Pellman. When Barr refused, Pellman ended the consultancy. Pellman denies this conversation took place.
    Last edited by pbmax; 05-14-2012, 10:12 AM.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      Dr. Pellman is a rheumatologist who attended medical school in Guadalajara, Mexico. He had lied about having a medical degree from SUNY Stone Brook. Pellman would seem to be a prime candidate to feel beholden to the team and the League for his lofty position.
      Details, details....

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      • #48
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Dr. Pellman is a rheumatologist who attended medical school in Guadalajara, Mexico. He had lied about having a medical degree from SUNY Stone Brook.
        But everyone's doing it, just ask Scott Thompson, the former Yahoo CEO.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
          But everyone's doing it, just ask Scott Thompson, the former Yahoo CEO.
          I understand wanting to have a more impressive resume when you are younger, so I understand if you are 23. But at some point you have to come clean.

          Which reminds me, I need to update my resume.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #50
            All these legal updates make my head hurt.

            You gave me a concussion pb, I'm gonna sue!
            All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
              All these legal updates make my head hurt.

              You gave me a concussion pb, I'm gonna sue!
              On what grounds? Just by reading the thread title, you should have known what you were in for.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                All these legal updates make my head hurt.

                You gave me a concussion pb, I'm gonna sue!
                Mine hurts too, actually. But its a fascinating question. PR experts love to quote form former political spokespersons that to get in front of a scandal, you need to come clean and disclose the truth so that future revelations lose the power to shock and you can talk about other things (of course, few people actually practice this). I would like to know what risk experts think the proper course would be for an industry facing a potentially large, expensive, but very clouded and entangled health issue.

                My guess is that the NFL listened to lawyers and practiced CYA, at least in the area of investigations.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                  All these legal updates make my head hurt.

                  You gave me a concussion pb, I'm gonna sue!
                  This will fix your headache.

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                  • #54


                    Ex-Patriots LB Ted Johnson speaks...Re: Concussions (and his decision to retire).

                    Updated: May 18, 2012, 7:15 PM ET
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                    • #55
                      http://espnmilwaukee.com/corp/page/0...%27/634?feed=2

                      Dorsey Levens: 'It's got to change'

                      By JASON WILDE
                      jwilde@espnwisconsin.com

                      Comment woodbuck27: This story brought the issue of football and concussions to a new focus and attention for me.

                      “So I’m talking to the doctor, and he says, ‘Every time you get your bell rung, or you get dinged, that’s an actual concussion.’ That’s when I had a mini-panic attack. I’m like, ‘That can’t be right.’ I’m telling this to a doctor who’s a leading expert in this. Because it happens way too often – to everybody,” Levens said.

                      “For me in a game with the Packers, that happened two, three, four times a game. Or in training camp, when I got drafted by the Packers, I got drafted as a fullback, so during two-a-days, that happened four or five times a practice, so we’re talking eight to 10 times a day....." Fr. Story
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                      • #56
                        Update... Plaintiffs are up to near 4,000. I'm telling you, the game will be changing in the years to come.

                        Someone uncovered a smoking gun? Of course, the report is a bit biased but the substance provides more ammo for the players.
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                        "According to documents obtained in a joint investigation by PBS' "FRONTLINE" program and ESPN's "Outside the Lines," the National Football League's retirement board awarded at least $2 million in disability payments to at least three former players after reaching the conclusion that football was the cause of their brain injuries."

                        According to documents obtained in a joint investigation by PBS' "FRONTLINE" program and ESPN's "Outside the Lines," the National Football League's retirement board awarded at least $2 million in disability payments to at least three former players after reaching the … Continue reading →


                        Last edited by Kiwon; 11-17-2012, 01:09 AM.

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                        • #57
                          Another update:"About 4,200 of the league's 12,000 former players have joined the litigation."

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