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  • I don't know why you guys are knocking James Jones so much, he actually had a pretty good season last year.
    Last edited by Brandon494; 06-03-2012, 11:20 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
      I don't know why you guys are knocking James Jones so much, he actually had a pretty season last year.
      I agree. 600+ yards and 7 TD's isn't bad. He's not a great player. He's a role player, but a good one.
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      • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
        I don't know why you guys are knocking James Jones so much, he actually had a pretty good season last year.
        We hope that TT will try to trade him and get some value back for him. He's peaked as a three / four WR so TT should try to trade him.
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        • What's wrong with having a really good #3-4 WR? Packers play at least 3 WR's on the majority of offensive plays.
          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            What's wrong with having a really good #3-4 WR? Packers play at least 3 WR's on the majority of offensive plays.
            Its nothing wrong with having a strong receiving core with a QB like Rodgers, as you saw last season its pretty deadly. Not to mention hes signed for cheap and I doubt he would bring much value, it would make absolutely no sense for TT to try and trade him.

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            • A #4 guy can end up your #2 pretty quickly, and the Pack's offense needs those receivers. Keep that core as strong as possible.
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              • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                Its nothing wrong with having a strong receiving core with a QB like Rodgers, as you saw last season its pretty deadly. Not to mention hes signed for cheap and I doubt he would bring much value, it would make absolutely no sense for TT to try and trade him.
                I agree here
                He signed for cheap after he recieved litle interest in Free Agency.
                I also agree he would not bring much value
                My suggestion of trading him would assume some othe team would value him far more than I do
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                • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                  We hope that TT will try to trade him and get some value back for him. He's peaked as a three / four WR so TT should try to trade him.
                  Say what?

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                  • Aaron Rodgers has peaked as the NFL's best quarterback...
                    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                      Its nothing wrong with having a strong receiving core with a QB like Rodgers, as you saw last season its pretty deadly. Not to mention hes signed for cheap and I doubt he would bring much value, it would make absolutely no sense for TT to try and trade him.
                      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                      I agree here
                      He signed for cheap after he recieved litle interest in Free Agency.
                      I also agree he would not bring much value
                      My suggestion of trading him would assume some othe team would value him far more than I do
                      In fairness to Jones, last year was not a good year to be a free agent. With the lack of an off season, I think some teams were more content going with the status quo, rather than brining in a lot of new people particulalry at the so-called "skill positions". (We all know that linemen require no skill!)

                      As for his trade value, very few NFL players have much trade value. Kellen Winslow had 75 receptions last year, and was traded for a 7th round pick that could become a 6th round pick. While Winslow's contract is not outlandish, Jones could have higher trade value because his contract is so cheap. He would be a welcome addition to a receiver-starved team (like the Packers of not so many years ago).

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                      • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        In fairness to Jones, last year was not a good year to be a free agent. With the lack of an off season, I think some teams were more content going with the status quo, rather than brining in a lot of new people particulalry at the so-called "skill positions". (We all know that linemen require no skill!)

                        As for his trade value, very few NFL players have much trade value. Kellen Winslow had 75 receptions last year, and was traded for a 7th round pick that could become a 6th round pick. While Winslow's contract is not outlandish, Jones could have higher trade value because his contract is so cheap. He would be a welcome addition to a receiver-starved team (like the Packers of not so many years ago).
                        Good point about being reciever starved in recent history. I don't understand why we would weaken a point f strenght on the team for an unknown gain. Being generous we might get a third for Jones, but what is the actual hit percentage of a third rounder? You might get an elite player, but you have a higher probability of a washout. Jones is not the key to our high powered offence but he is a strong contributor. Besides who else do we have to bitch about that Brandon will have to defened?
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                        • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                          Good point about being reciever starved in recent history. I don't understand why we would weaken a point f strenght on the team for an unknown gain. Being generous we might get a third for Jones, but what is the actual hit percentage of a third rounder? You might get an elite player, but you have a higher probability of a washout. Jones is not the key to our high powered offence but he is a strong contributor. Besides who else do we have to bitch about that Brandon will have to defened?
                          Exactly, and I doubt anyone would even offer a 4th for Jones, let alone a 3rd. NFL trades for the most part involve low round draft picks, and not much more.

                          Without a passing offense, the Packers are lost. It wasn't too many years ago the Packers were scavenging the waiver wire every week for a receiver to be active and play the following weekend. Should they lose a couple receivers for any extended time, we will be very glad they have Jones.

                          Cobb is a small, fearless return man; which could very well mean a week missed here and there even if not several in succession. Driver, while a physical specimen, is also at an age that could lead to lots of missed time. We saw Jennings go out last year.

                          I would be much happier with Jones on the roster rather than having whatever draft pick they will get for him in a trade. Besides, when his contract runs out next year he will likely leave anyway, and the compensatory pick won't be much less than what they might get in a trade this year or next.

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                          • Do not trade Jones. He gets blasted (correctly) for dropping easy catches that would have been huge gains/TDs, but other WRs don't even get open in the first place for a chance at huge gains.

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                            • Jones is a great value at his current salary. I don't think you could find many receivers with his talent at his salary level. You would not get equal value for him in a trade, so I don't see the intelligence in trying to trade him. While he's a marginal starter at best, he's the kind of guy you have confidence in if you only need to plug him in for a couple games due to injuries. As a #3/#4 WR, he can make some big plays for you against lesser secondary talent. Patler has it absolutely correct...Green Bay has put all its eggs in the passing game on offense. We have a bunch of question marks at RB, and the only way we can have success in the run game is to maintain that elite passing game. That means you better have a stable full of WR talent in case you have a couple of injuries.

                              I feel pretty good that one of the young kids is going to prove to be worth keeping during camp this year. However, keeping 6 WRs is a real possibility...which makes Driver's chances of making the final roster a lot higher.
                              It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                              • If there was one reciever who had to go though, and that one wasn't donald driver, then it would be James Jones. I think that's where Wood was coming from before everyone piled on him. So, if he's the worst WR on our team and he's still pretty good, why not get some value for him? I see the validity in that argument, it's just unlikely we're going to get anything we actually need for him so the point it moot anyway.

                                IF we were say, the bucs or the Bengals and we had a surplus of talent at any position, I could see us trading to get a marginal starter at a different position, but there's no place on our roster that i think can be improved upon with a marginal starter.

                                Shit, people still want to toss Hawk, you ain't getting that kind of quality for Jones.
                                - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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