Is this right? Michael HUNT "It's difficult to see Driver playing another snap in green and gold."

[pbmax]

I don't know if it is TT's decision. TT acquires the players for MM and his staff I am under the impression that personnel decisions as far as who stays and who goes is mostly McCarthy's...?

Nope, Teddy gets to make the call with M3's input.

[Deputy Nutz]

Another veteran player that can still play at a high level is unwanted in Green Bay. Much less for a practice squad player.

[Joemailman]

Nope, Teddy gets to make the call with M3's input.

Yep. It might seem sometimes the decisions are made by MM, but that's more because TT and MM don't air any differences publicly. Actually, I get the sense they have the same philosophy on how to build a team, so their differences aren't very significant. The decision on whether to bring Driver to camp will be TT's. I suspect MM may have a bit more influence on the Driver situation when it comes time to put together the 53 man roster.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think it was McCarthy's call on Favre. Favre and McCarthy were the two that met for 3 hours in training camp and came away with nothing. Ted was the one in charge of dealing with Favre when McCarthy made up his mind that Favre wasn't going to fit in Green Bay anymore.

That is my honest opinion, Driver is a little different because you are talking about salary and when he is due payment. I don't think anyone on these forums thinks that Gurley or Borely are going to put up the same numbers that Driver is going to put up in 2012, but it comes down to getting younger, getting more athletes on special teams.

[Smidgeon]

Yep. It might seem sometimes the decisions are made by MM, but that's more because TT and MM don't air any differences publicly. Actually, I get the sense they have the same philosophy on how to build a team, so their differences aren't very significant. The decision on whether to bring Driver to camp will be TT's. I suspect MM may have a bit more influence on the Driver situation when it comes time to put together the 53 man roster.

Agreed. Wholeheartedly. And I think this is why their method has been as successful as it has been.

[Brandon494]

Favre and Driver situations are nothing alike.

[sharpe1027]

Another veteran player that can still play at a high level is unwanted in Green Bay. Much less for a practice squad player.

He is unwanted in Green Bay? This is not a situation where the Packers are stuck between a rock and a hard place because they had already moved forward under the assumption that Driver will not be back (both in terms of salary and replacements). They'll simply look at all the evidence and make the best call for the team.

If they think he can still play at a high level, he will still be wanted in Green Bay. If they think he can't still play at a high level, then what would you want them to do?

[Deputy Nutz]

See my post above.

[Deputy Nutz]

Favre and Driver situations are nothing alike.

Care to offer more than that?

[woodbuck27]

I think it was McCarthy's call on Favre. Favre and McCarthy were the two that met for 3 hours in training camp and came away with nothing. Ted was the one in charge of dealing with Favre when McCarthy made up his mind that Favre wasn't going to fit in Green Bay anymore.

That is my honest opinion, Driver is a little different because you are talking about salary and when he is due payment. I don't think anyone on these forums thinks that Gurley or Borely are going to put up the same numbers that Driver is going to put up in 2012, but it comes down to getting younger, getting more athletes on special teams.

and saving money.

[sharpe1027]

Nutz, you admittedly seemed to back off a bit in the one post, but when you say "Another veteran player that can still play at a high level is unwanted in Green Bay. Much less for a practice squad player" you seem to be concluding that a decision has already been made and that the decision is not being made on ability/performance. I don't buy that argument. If they think Driver is still capable of playing at a high level, I think they keep him around.

[Deputy Nutz]

But what is a high value worth in comparison? Is he the teams 3rd best WR? Then they should keep him, but if he is not better than Jones will they let him go? My point is he a training camp cut, or is he cut prior to training camp. I thought he was due a roster bonus before the start of training camp. I might be wrong.

[woodbuck27]

Nutz, you admittedly seemed to back off a bit in the one post, but when you say "Another veteran player that can still play at a high level is unwanted in Green Bay. Much less for a practice squad player" you seem to be concluding that a decision has already been made and that the decision is not being made on ability/performance. I don't buy that argument. If they think Driver is still capable of playing at a high level, I think they keep him around.

Why not keep him around because he deserves another season based on 'the fact' that even being utilized last season a limited capasity, he's a top 50 WR in the NFL?

Given his service and the afore mentioned fact and his desire to contribute to the Packers this season he deserves certain respect?

[sharpe1027]

He was arguably the 3rd best last year, but not by a wide margin. It is difficult for me to believe he doesn't lose a little bit more and that Cobb doesn't improve at least little bit as well. So, my best guess is that he is no better than 4th best, possibly sliding all the way to 5th best.

Driver is due about $1.5 Mil at the first day of training camp and about $5 Mil total for the year. He has game-day roster bonuses of $700K per game. So, there is a big chunk due right away, but they could still save about $3.5 Mil by letting him go during preseason. They may take a hard look at him in the offseason workout program and make a decision before camp starts. I think there's a good chance he gets cut before training camp starts. If they let him into training camp, I think he's got a better than a 50/50 chance of staying on the team.

[woodbuck27]

He was arguably the 3rd best last year, but not by a wide margin. It is difficult for me to believe he doesn't lose a little bit more and that Cobb doesn't improve at least little bit as well. So, my best guess is that he is no better than 4th best, possibly sliding all the way to 5th best.

Driver is due about $1.5 Mil at the first day of training camp and about $5 Mil total for the year. He has game-day roster bonuses of $700K per game. So, there is a big chunk due right away, but they could still save about $3.5 Mil by letting him go during preseason. They may take a hard look at him in the offseason workout program and make a decision before camp starts. I think there's a good chance he gets cut before camp start. If they let him into training camp, I think he's got a better than a 50/50 chance of staying on the team.

This is Donald Driver. If TT allows him to get to TC. He will shine.