Packers Cut Cundiff

[woodbuck27]

Re: Packers Cut Cundiff

From KFFL:

Packers | Rayner named the starting place kicker
Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:40:34 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports Green Bay Packers PK Dave Rayner has been named the starting place kicker. The team is not planning to bring in anyone else to compete.

I'm not buying that.

GO PACKERS !

[Patler]

Rayner is mostly an unknown quantity. Cundiff has been around long enough to have a feel for what he is They must feel Rayner's potential exceeds what Cundiff is right now.

To really give Rayner a good evaluation, this was best. Dump all the pressure squarely on him and let him kick for three preseason game. If he doesn't cut it in those three games, Cundiff, Edinger or someone else will be here very quickly.

I like this move, doing it early.

[woodbuck27]

Rayner is mostly an unknown quantity. Cundiff has been around long enough to have a feel for what he is They must feel Rayner's potential exceeds what Cundiff is right now.

To really give Rayner a good evaluation, this was best. Dump all the pressure squarely on him and let him kick for three preseason game. If he doesn't cut it in those three games, Cundiff, Edinger or someone else will be here very quickly.

I like this move, doing it early.

Dave Rayner certainly seemed confident that the competition was very close and it seemed that way according to reports. He had better leg strength than Billy Cundiff, and maybe just needs the real shot, so he can relax and get it more consistent from 45 yards in.

He has to do well in the remaining preseason games or Ted Thompson will have someone else in of course.

Good luck to Dave Rayner.

GO PACKERS ! FAITH PACKER FANS !!

[Willard]

Due to the Packers' unstoppable offense our placekicker is of little importance other than on kickoffs. I'm sure we will not bother kicking fieldgoals when the touchdowns start coming so easily for us.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nice! We kept a guy who has been inaccurate, couldn't hold the kickoff specialist job last year (while kicking in a dome), and who struggled with kickoffs this year.

Please! No Edinger!

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Rayner is mostly an unknown quantity. Cundiff has been around long enough to have a feel for what he is They must feel Rayner's potential exceeds what Cundiff is right now.

To really give Rayner a good evaluation, this was best. Dump all the pressure squarely on him and let him kick for three preseason game. If he doesn't cut it in those three games, Cundiff, Edinger or someone else will be here very quickly.

I like this move, doing it early.

I agree, I like the move as well. As you said, being an NFL kicker is all about being under pressure. Why not put all the pressure on the guy that you think is going to win the job now, rather than when the season starts.

[Packers4Glory]

I highly doubt they bring in anyone else unless he just sucks from here on out in camp. He is young and has a big leg. They are probably hoping he developes like the rest of the young talent. Longwell was accurate but man his kickoffs killed the packers. This guy may not be as accurate of a kicker, but there is potential there for him to become a good and consistent FG kicker while kicking the ball deep on kickoffs.

why not give him a shot? Nobody expected jackcrap out of longwell when he came on. w/ kickers you never know.

Neil Rackers was pretty crappy his first couple seasons in Cincy and has since turned into one the top 3 kickers in the game. Rackers had a big leg but wasn't very accurate 57% and 61% his first 2 yrs in the lg.

[woodbuck27]

Rayner is mostly an unknown quantity. Cundiff has been around long enough to have a feel for what he is They must feel Rayner's potential exceeds what Cundiff is right now.

To really give Rayner a good evaluation, this was best. Dump all the pressure squarely on him and let him kick for three preseason game. If he doesn't cut it in those three games, Cundiff, Edinger or someone else will be here very quickly.

I like this move, doing it early.

I agree, I like the move as well. As you said, being an NFL kicker is all about being under pressure. Why not put all the pressure on the guy that you think is going to win the job now, rather than when the season starts.

He can certainly kick them beyond 50 yards and we may need that?

GO PACKERS ! HOLD FAITHin 2006 !! and BEYOND.

[mmmdk]

Has anybody seen a Dave Rayner kickoff (in camp)? Training camp reports indicated that Cundiff has had longer kickoffs than Dave Rayner. My question though is; does Rayner kick 'em high (the kickoffs)? That might explain Billy having longer kickoffs. There's no doubt that Rayner has the stronger FG leg.

[woodbuck27]

Has anybody seen a Dave Rayner kickoff (in camp)? Training camp reports indicated that Cundiff has had longer kickoffs than Dave Rayner. My question though is; does Rayner kick 'em high (the kickoffs)? That might explain Billy having longer kickoffs. There's no doubt that Rayner has the stronger FG leg.

Did you see this:

Above in this thread the link.

Rayner can sure boot kickoffs here is video from family night.

http://www.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=16582

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[Astonishment]

This makes sence if the Packers felt that Cundiff was holding Rayner back, as far as getting the reps and game experience.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't know. From all accounts, Cundiff was outkicking Rayner. Maybe he's shown so much potential that they've decided to go with him. Maybe they don't like what they see from Cundiff. Seems strange though. The kicker for the 2006 Packers is likely not on the team. Let's just hope a quality kicker becomes available.

[Rastak]

I don't know. From all accounts, Cundiff was outkicking Rayner. Maybe he's shown so much potential that they've decided to go with him. Maybe they don't like what they see from Cundiff. Seems strange though. The kicker for the 2006 Packers is likely not on the team. Let's just hope a quality kicker becomes available.

I thought it was strange also, but it would be a good thing for the Packers if he did emerge as a good young kicker with some leg strength. I know from watching the Vikings that young kickers aren't the most consistent guys on the field most of the time.

[mmmdk]

Holy cow! That's some kickoff by Rayner (saw download). Then why all the reports out of camp that Rayner was kicking shorter kickoffs than Cundiff???

[woodbuck27]

Packer fans !!

It's tough for us to get the inside on some moves. I was really surprised that Billy Cundiff was let go at this point in OUR TC. BAM !!!

Being a suporter of a team, isn't exactly like watching " Survivor or American Idle or the Miss America Contest" - where we see the winners develop.

We see lots of moves that puzzle, at least some of us, but it's ALL very interesting. We ALL just hold out HOPE, that every move will be for US and " of course" - not all are. We are different and see it differently.

What must it be like to be Ted Thompson, as he learns to manage OUR team? It's NOT easy - I expect.

I see Ted Thompson, as a rather mysterious fella, and it will take TIME for this Packer fan to read him. I see this.

I think he has a heart and combined with intelligence, Ted Thompson thinks of the better good for a player.

Some people here want to slam me - because I want Ted Thompson to be solid as OUR GM. I am not all against Ted Thompson, and "in fact" I give him full marks for having a terrific draft last April.

I love it that we have the likes of:

HAWK ,HODGE,JENNINGS,COLLEDGE.SPITZ,CULVER and WILL BLACKMON
(watch for this fella - he's going to be a beauty) . . .

and hopefully, Cory Rodgers and Dale Tollefson and Tony MOLL and Greg Jolly and INGLE MARTIN ( good athlete - great arm) can also contribute to OUR future.

Ted it's said here:

" can't keep them ALL ". . but Ted Thompson . . . just. . well. . . may.

We need the core group of OUR Vet's and the remainder of OUR 53-Man must be the BEST that Ted Thompson can hand - Head Coach Mike McCarthy and his Staff.

Alot of us believed I expect base on what we read and the reports of members here that, Billy Cundiff put in the effort and the results to be the clear front runner (up to yesterday) as OUR kicker. Can anyone deny that?

The press had that assssment as a fact. So Billy Cundiff was dispatched as Ted Thompson felt that he and his Coaching staff saw more upside in Dave Raynor. More potential than Cundiff that seems relevant to Ted's decision on Billy Cundiff.That's it as I view that move.

What is it, that you see - on that move to toss Billy Cundiff?

Timing?? Strange??? No! Not as I have so far been able in my limited standpoint been able to read Ted "Mystery Man" Thompson.

Ted Thompson made up his mind (I hope) or expect, based on input from his HC - Coach's. So why hang onto what he didn't need.

Billy Cundiff and his history in the NFL over Dave Raynor's potential upside.

Give Billy Cundiff another chance while TC is on with another Organization. That maybe . . is partly due to Ted's heart and - HIS Intelligence? Am I out to lunch here people?? Help me to understand this better.

Does ANYONE ELSE see it, at all as I'm seeing it ?? Otherwise - PLEASE straighten me out on this move at this time in OUR TC. . . .

PLEASE !!

WHY do I ask this of YOU Packer fans?? I'll explain.

I have to be prepared now, for the possible release of a man that I've pulled for since way back in early Feb.2006. A man that has worked his tail off and has showed us alot.

Punter - Jon Ryan.

I have to be prepoared for the possible release of another Man that I support -

WR Ruvell Martin who has clearly displayed the effort and "the RESULT's" to be one of OUR WR's to begin this season.

ONLY - Donald Driver has demonstrated better stat's in TC, as of Wed. Aug.16, 2006. Ruvell Martin and DD and Greg Jennings have by a long shot, outshone the likes of Rod Gardner as the 4th best IMO, and after him what in "H" has Robert Ferguson and Marc Boerigter done, but very little that is consistent - positive for this season??

How can I be better prepared for the release of either punter Jon Ryan and /or WR Ruvell Martin?

HELP PLEASE.

GO PACKERS ! HOLD FAITH FOR 2006 !!