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  • NFC North 2009 draft revisited.

    One website I frequent, coldhardfootballfacts.com has an article looking at the 2009 draft for the nfc north teams. Might interest some of you,

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    Thanks Upnorth.

    I found this article interesting. This draft appears to be a poor one for da Bears.

    'Again' it's interesting that in the 2009 draft Ted Thompson upsurped the NE Pat's GM/HC Bill Bilichick to steal LB Clay Matthews. That seems to be a habit since the Pat's acquisition of Randy Moss. Maybe it's... mere coincidence!? Yet... how can a man by reputation of being such 'a sharpie' be upstaged over and over again by TT?
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    • #3
      That's a pretty amazing draft. Potential Hall of Famer, Pro Bowler, a solid starter. Then two backups who have grabbed a couple starts. The guys we cut have stuck around on other teams and even Brandon Underwood got invited to camp in Oakland. Technically no one from that draft is out of the league. Wow.

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      • #4
        Detroit's draft was much stronger that year, which is frustrating. However, we did have a nice one since we got the Claymaker and Raji and Lang.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by smuggler View Post
          Detroit's draft was much stronger that year, which is frustrating. However, we did have a nice one since we got the Claymaker and Raji and Lang.
          They were picking first in every round, plus had fleeced the cowboys for Roy Williams the year before for an extra three picks. So, they had a built in advantage.

          I think time will tell who had the stronger draft. But, they did get a quarterback who looks like the real deal, so probably they will win that year.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by smuggler View Post
            Detroit's draft was much stronger that year, which is frustrating. However, we did have a nice one since we got the Claymaker and Raji and Lang.
            I disagree that Detroit's was much stronger. Sure, they got Stafford, but the others are nothing special.

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            • #7
              Stafford is made of glass.
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              • #8
                If Stafford can stay of the IR and stay on the field then the Lions had a better draft, however Clay and Raji look like huge difference makers so the difference between our drfat and theirs is not that great IMO.
                I do miss the Millen era though...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  I disagree that Detroit's was much stronger. Sure, they got Stafford, but the others are nothing special.
                  Right.

                  Stafford is solid but potentially brittle.

                  Pettigrew is good enough, but not great.

                  Delmas is a nice safety but our guys have lit him up.

                  Levy and Hill are unremarkable.

                  Compare that to:

                  CMIII. Stud for life.

                  Raji. Potential stud for life.

                  Lang. Turning into a solid left guard. Does anyone miss the guy from North Pole?

                  Wynn. Ugh, but still on the team.

                  Jones. One could say disappointing, but he was drafted in the 7th, so how disappointing can he be?

                  Also, I would say that Meredith was the worst pick of that draft and not Johnson.

                  Good thread, UpNorth.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                    Detroit's draft was much stronger that year, which is frustrating. However, we did have a nice one since we got the Claymaker and Raji and Lang.
                    Yes they got their franchise QB.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                      Also, I would say that Meredith was the worst pick of that draft and not Johnson.
                      I said that same thing. Johnson wasn't drafted to carry the ball or catch the ball. He's a 6th lineman basically. Hard to get stats on that for any rankings system.
                      Originally posted by 3irty1
                      This is museum quality stupidity.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                        Also, I would say that Meredith was the worst pick of that draft and not Johnson.
                        I agree. In the preseason games he played he set his pass protection on the same drop everytime. The DE than either went inside or outside that drop point and hassled Flynn and whoever else was playing that game.

                        I was surprised when he was plucked off of our practice squad. He was a player that needed at least 2 seasons on the practice squad before he was ready for live fire.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                          I agree. In the preseason games he played he set his pass protection on the same drop everytime. The DE than either went inside or outside that drop point and hassled Flynn and whoever else was playing that game.

                          I was surprised when he was plucked off of our practice squad. He was a player that needed at least 2 seasons on the practice squad before he was ready for live fire.
                          Even more amazing was that he started a few games for Buffalo later that season.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            Even more amazing was that he started a few games for Buffalo later that season.
                            It would have been more amazing if it was somewhere other than Buffalo...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                              It would have been more amazing if it was somewhere other than Buffalo...
                              Yet more reason to miss the old Millen era in detroit. Sigh.
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