It would be very dumb to trade him. You are never so loaded at a position that you should trade away a good player for crap. And thats what we would get for Jones, crap. One injury and we would wish we never traded him. If it wasn't for us being loaded at Wr's we would have completely sucked last year. I hope this is just bs.
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Being a Finley Fan, I see James Jones as about our 5th or 6th option right now. Very expendable IMOTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Its not Arrigo. The guy from the Houston Chronicle is legit and the SBNation article in the OP is built of his reporting. Its still a rumor from a League source, but its not from someone like the plagiarist Arrigo.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Unless Finley and Jones run the same routes I don't see how one makes the other replaceable. I always think of receivers in terms of complementing one another.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostBeing a Finley Fan, I see James Jones as about our 5th or 6th option right now. Very expendable IMO
If we trade Jones we need quality in return IMO, unless Borely and Gurley can really step up and take over Jones job.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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Originally posted by Upnorth View PostUnless Finley and Jones run the same routes I don't see how one makes the other replaceable. I always think of receivers in terms of complementing one another.
If we trade Jones we need quality in return IMO, unless Borely and Gurley can really step up and take over Jones job.
We have Jennings, Nelson, and Cobb.....all IMO who will be better than JJ soon if not already
If we think Gurley or Borrell has similau upside as JJ we don't lose much. Donald Driver is a very solid 3/4 for this year. I am assuming Cobb develops some of course.
We probably won't get a lot of quality in return because I don't think many think JJ is that good. So I'd agree we end up keeping him.
But what if TT thinks Gurley and/or the ex QB turned WR will be better than Jones ?TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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So let's play this game...instead of getting, say, a fourth or fifth for Jones - the most likely picks you'd receive - which player on the Houston roster do you think is A) of equivalent value (that is, no "trade James Jones for Brooks Reed!" B.S., B) someone that might be seen as expendable by Houston, and C) fits a need for the Pack.
Oh, and no fair throwing in a second rounder for Ben Tate. Or a third or fourth. The highest "throw in" you're allowed is a fifth. I say that because I think many teams - and most especially Ted - covet their thirds and fourths.
So the highest you can go is James Jones plus a fifth round pick, in exchange for ____________ ??"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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My problem is not the 2012 season, as we still have firepower. My problem is past 2012. Unless borley and Gurrel step up our well stocked cupboard is down to average. Why be average?Originally posted by Bretsky View PostWe have Jennings, Nelson, and Cobb.....all IMO who will be better than JJ soon if not already
If we think Gurley or Borrell has similau upside as JJ we don't lose much. Donald Driver is a very solid 3/4 for this year. I am assuming Cobb develops some of course.
We probably won't get a lot of quality in return because I don't think many think JJ is that good. So I'd agree we end up keeping him.
But what if TT thinks Gurley and/or the ex QB turned WR will be better than Jones ?All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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Does Houston have any O-line or D-line depth they'd be willing to give up? I guess I'd give up our 4/5 WR for a backup C who's better than EDS or Sampson. Maybe a wide body to replace Green?Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Houston has plenty of people on D, but not sure who they might give up. O line depth was a concern for them at one point last season due to injuries, not sure status now.Originally posted by Zool View PostDoes Houston have any O-line or D-line depth they'd be willing to give up? I guess I'd give up our 4/5 WR for a backup C who's better than EDS or Sampson. Maybe a wide body to replace Green?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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We could get a nice set of pads for Jones...Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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If they trade him, it will almost certainly be for a player at roster cutdown time. Find a WR-poor team with an excess of talent at a position that GB is weak at, and swap expendable players.
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he's flipped for a running back, of all things.</delurk>
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Originally posted by Fritz View PostSo let's play this game...instead of getting, say, a fourth or fifth for Jones - the most likely picks you'd receive - which player on the Houston roster do you think is A) of equivalent value (that is, no "trade James Jones for Brooks Reed!" B.S., B) someone that might be seen as expendable by Houston, and C) fits a need for the Pack.
Oh, and no fair throwing in a second rounder for Ben Tate. Or a third or fourth. The highest "throw in" you're allowed is a fifth. I say that because I think many teams - and most especially Ted - covet their thirds and fourths.
So the highest you can go is James Jones plus a fifth round pick, in exchange for ____________ ??
Can we trade our FIRST RD PICK we drafted over Brooks Reed AND James Jones for Brooks Reed ?????????????????????????????????????????????TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by Upnorth View PostMy problem is not the 2012 season, as we still have firepower. My problem is past 2012. Unless borley and Gurrel step up our well stocked cupboard is down to average. Why be average?
Clearly you like JJ far more than I; I doin't think he's much of a loss.
ANY receiving combo led by Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, and Jermichael will not be average IMOTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Yeah, if there's one thing TT does better than anyone else, it's finding WR's. He drafts one in the 2nd round about every other year, so he's due next year.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostClearly you like JJ far more than I; I doin't think he's much of a loss.
ANY receiving combo led by Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, and Jermichael will not be average IMOI can't run no more
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