Jim Schwartz is really starting to piss me off.

[Cheesehead Craig]

McCarthy may have been a hot head, but I can't see him EVER allowing a player to play dirty like Schwartz clearly allowed from Suh.

I may not like ND, but my best memory of when Holtz was there and he grabbed a player's facemask and yanked him off the field and then berated him for fighting after a play was done. It was awesome and showed that stupid shit like that wouldn't be tolerated. Nowadays he would get fired for that and that's a shame.

[Fritz]

Remember when MM first started here, how the penalties were a problem? It took him a couple what, three years, to get that fixed? I wonder if the problem was the type of players he had initially, and getting the "right kind" of player fixed the the problem, or if something else changed. And will the Lions go through that same maturation?

[Little Whiskey]

Remember when MM first started here, how the penalties were a problem? It took him a couple what, three years, to get that fixed? I wonder if the problem was the type of players he had initially, and getting the "right kind" of player fixed the the problem, or if something else changed. And will the Lions go through that same maturation?

I always thought it was due to pad level.

[Tony Oday]

The Lions are done. They had their chance last year and it was their best one. Stafford wont make it past game 4 this year.

[smuggler]

The Lions just cut CB Aaron Berry after his latest arrest. That's a pretty big deal, because he was going to be starting for them in 2012.

[Tony Oday]

A starting CB on the Lions couldnt get a scholarship from The MN Gophers.

[smuggler]

Well, now they're down 2 of their corners from last season - Eric Wright (signed w/ Tampa) and Aaron Berry. The signed Jacob Lacey (previously with Indy) and drafted 3; Dwight Bentley, Christ Greenwood, and Jonte Green.

They really need one of those guys to pan out.

[Tony Oday]

I am alright if none of them pan out

[Little Whiskey]

I am alright if none of them pan out

like Ahmad Carrol and Joey Thomas.

[Pugger]

Remember when MM first started here, how the penalties were a problem? It took him a couple what, three years, to get that fixed? I wonder if the problem was the type of players he had initially, and getting the "right kind" of player fixed the the problem, or if something else changed. And will the Lions go through that same maturation?

There is a difference between game penalties and unsportsman-like conduct penalties like Suh stomping on a player's head.

[Cheesehead Craig]

There is a difference between game penalties and unsportsman-like conduct penalties like Suh stomping on a player's head.

That was clearly to the arm. You're such a drama queen.

[Joemailman]

The Lions just cut CB Aaron Berry after his latest arrest. That's a pretty big deal, because he was going to be starting for them in 2012.

This is at least an acknowledgement that they recognize they have a real problem. A loud message being sent out to the rest of their players.

[pbmax]

They dropped the felony charges on Berry. Wonder if the Lions want a mulligan?

[Pugger]

That was clearly to the arm. You're such a drama queen.

Suh just missed his target, that's all.

[Fritz]

I can't stand those bastards. I am hoping for more of them to get arrested.