Official 2012 Training Camp Discussion Thread

[rbaloha1]

Appears thus the defensive horrors from last season are corrected.

The addition of Worthy and Perry provides juice for a consistent pass rush. The back-up ilbs are playmakers and shall help in nickel and dime situations. If one of them can retrieve defensive signals and line-up everyone correctly its special teams for Hawk. (Hawk is way overpaid for essentially being a signal caller).

The secondary has numerous athletes with more experience in the scheme. So much so that imo Shields is on the bubble or joins Bush on special teams.

Its difficult to be a top 10 defense given the high powered offense. IMO as long as the defense continues to force turnovers, improve on third down defense and an important stat Capers loves -- an under 80 qb rating, the super bowl awaits.

[Iron Mike]

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

How 'bout a Fresca??

[pbmax]

Newhouse situation is still murky. No one (even teammates) was sure he was injured. McCarthy had nothing when he spoke to media and no practice Saturday.

[RashanGary]

Newhouse situation is still murky. No one (even teammates) was sure he was injured. McCarthy had nothing when he spoke to media and no practice Saturday.

Not good. He looked to be walking perfectly fine. Zero limp, no shoulders hanging. He was walking mostly slowly, with his head down. I'm guessing concussion. That or a strain somewhere in his core area (back, oblique, etc)

[RashanGary]

pb, I know you want Sherrod in there. . . . . I really think it's going to be tough for him. He has very little game experience. He hasn't been able to work his lower body since December (7 months.) I don't know if you've done much weight lifting, but 7 months is a really long time. A lot of strength is lost in that time. He has to be at less than 50% right now of where he should be. He was a rookie coming in. He was already below the strength he should be been at. That's a big setback for him. Also, technique and muscle memory are paramount for OL. It's going to take him some time, to get that down too.

Marshmallow is our best bet. He has experience. He's been mostly healthy so he's been able to get his NFL strength and technique down. He worked with Lang last year and is building chemistry with him now. It's not a good thing to lose this guy. We have nobody ready.

I went back through the scouts information on Sherrod. He seems like a low floor, possibly high ceiling (in pass pro) type of guy. He just needs some time to get his legs under him. That could easily happen if he gets a season here to wait in the wings like Rodgers did. Work on all of the little things, get stronger. . . Next year could be quite the competition. This year, I just don't see him being able to do it. That was a really tough break for him (no pun intended.)

[RashanGary]

I meant to say his floor isn't low, and his ceiling is pretty high. So scouts thought he'd be a good player, with potential to be really good, but they didn't see him as special.

[Bretsky]

Newhouse situation is still murky. No one (even teammates) was sure he was injured. McCarthy had nothing when he spoke to media and no practice Saturday.

Hopefully the Marshmellow is fine

Otherwise we'll have to hope Sherry comes back sooner

[Joemailman]

Does T. J. Lang start getting reps at LT this week? Bulaga?

[Lurker64]

I don't think we should jump to conclusions on Newhouse's injury. Maybe he just turned an ankle and, since the scrimmage is meaningless, they sent him into the locker room to get it taped up.

I wouldn't overreact at least until tomorrow's practice, and better still hold off overreacting until McCarthy talks after practice.

[Joemailman]

I don't think we should jump to conclusions on Newhouse's injury. Maybe he just turned an ankle and, since the scrimmage is meaningless, they sent him into the locker room to get it taped up.

I wouldn't overreact at least until tomorrow's practice, and better still hold off overreacting until McCarthy talks after practice.

It may be nothing serious, but they play a preseason game in 5 days. You don't want Datko protecting The Franchise's blind side.

[Lurker64]

It may be nothing serious, but they play a preseason game in 5 days. You don't want Datko protecting The Franchise's blind side.

Worst case scenario, Aaron Rodgers plays one series in the preseason game, and hands the ball off on every play.

You don't gameplan to beat your opponent in the preseason, but you absolutely gameplan to do sensible things that help your football team.

[pittstang5]

Not good. He looked to be walking perfectly fine. Zero limp, no shoulders hanging. He was walking mostly slowly, with his head down. I'm guessing concussion. That or a strain somewhere in his core area (back, oblique, etc)

Thought concussion too for the same reasons you mentioned.

This one could really hurt, IF this is serious. Datko has shown nothing, except his best turnstyle impression. Sherrod hasn't even been cleared to play and if and when he does, how effective is he going to be? I'm of the opinion that if Sherrod doesn't start practicing soon, as in a week, might as well IR him for the year, cause I don't think he'll be any use.

Hope Clifton is on speed Dial should this incident or, God forbid, something in the future happens.

[BobDobbs]

Thought concussion too for the same reasons you mentioned.

This one could really hurt, IF this is serious. Datko has shown nothing, except his best turnstyle impression. Sherrod hasn't even been cleared to play and if and when he does, how effective is he going to be? I'm of the opinion that if Sherrod doesn't start practicing soon, as in a week, might as well IR him for the year, cause I don't think he'll be any use.

Hope Clifton is on speed Dial should this incident or, God forbid, something in the future happens.

You gotta think that we bump Lang out to LT before we start Datko with the ones right? It gives them a chance to play with their actual injury replacement instead of the depth chart replacement.

I think that Sherrod's going to be OK. We definitely can't IR him unless we trade for someone. We don't have anybody.

[Lurker64]

You gotta think that we bump Lang out to LT before we start Datko with the ones right? It gives them a chance to play with their actual injury replacement instead of the depth chart replacement.

I think that Sherrod's going to be OK. We definitely can't IR him unless we trade for someone. We don't have anybody.

The Packers have seven offensive linemen on their roster that have business in being on an NFL field in a regular season game: Bulaga, Sitton, Saturday, Lang, Newhouse, Sherrod, EDS. If Newhouse and Sherrod are unavailable and the game actually matters, you absolutely start shuffling people outside because EDS is your next best guy and he's strictly an interior OL (and he backs up all three interior OL positions.)

If it's just a preseason game, those don't really matter. Run direct snaps to the RB all night if that's what you need to do in order to get everybody important out of there with their health.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I love when Teddy shows his personality a little bit.

Q. Every good executive, especially in a corporation this large, needs to be thinking about line of succession. If you were unable to fulfill your duties, would you recommend John Dorsey, Russ Ball or possibly someone else to be the GM?

A. You're the only person who ever asks me what I'm going to do when I retire. First of all, I think they should have a shut-down of business for a year (laughter) in memory. Barring that, I'll leave that to the powers that be here as far as that. But these are all good people. I couldn't do my job without John and Russ and these guys. I think any of them could do the job.