Official 2012 Training Camp Discussion Thread

[rbaloha1]

Well, hopefully the explosion translates over to run-stopping acumen. That's what Wilson has right now more than anyone else except Raji and Pickett.

I am sorry -- do not see the run stopping abilities in Wilson.

[Lurker64]

I am sorry -- do not see the run stopping abilities in Wilson.

In terms of "run stops per play" Wilson was actually 6th among NFL defensive ends last year (9.6% of his snaps, he stopped a running play.)

He can't rush the passer at all, but that's respectable.

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In terms of "run stops per play" Wilson was actually 6th among NFL defensive ends last year (9.6% of his snaps, he stopped a running play.)

He can't rush the passer at all, but that's respectable.

Stats shmants. Not a Wilson hater by any means, but he also didn't play a whole lot and mainly only on running downs. 10% of a small sample size is still a small sample size.

Put him out there for 3 downs and it's all of a sudden not very impressive. Run percentage on 1st down skews the tackle percentage.

[Lurker64]

Stats shmants. Not a Wilson hater by any means, but he also didn't play a whole lot and mainly only on running downs. 10% of a small sample size is still a small sample size.

Put him out there for 3 downs and it's all of a sudden not very impressive. Run percentage on 1st down skews the tackle percentage.

Well, sure, but this is reflected somewhat on the field. Wilson is physical and tenacious, and he doesn't play stupid. There's not a lot of talent there, but you can do more with "try hard" guys without much talent than you can with more talented people who are lazy (c.f. Jarius Wynn and Phil Merling).

Actually, if you could combine those three people into one player, taking the best of each, you'd have a top flight 5-tech.

[rbaloha1]

In terms of "run stops per play" Wilson was actually 6th among NFL defensive ends last year (9.6% of his snaps, he stopped a running play.)

He can't rush the passer at all, but that's respectable.

IMO a meaningless stat given the number of snaps. If Wilson is starting itts due to Worthy's inconsistency.

[RashanGary]

When the hell is JH going to give us a live report from camp?

I have to make at least one this year. . . . .


The most memorable training camp ever was the time Josh Sitton took off his helmet and was beating Brady Poppinga with it. I was in the 2nd row. They were right up against the rails. They look big and intimidating on the field, but to see the one of the baddest Packers on our team rip off his helmet, rage out and beat someone with it right in front of you, close enough to see the sweat dripping off his scraggly beard and the look in his eyes. . . . . football is no joke. Either you're fearless or have enough fear to fight like your back is against the wall. There is no other way to do what they do.

[Freak Out]

I hope you get to make it to a couple JH...I always enjoy reading your camp comments.... especially about the girls in the stands.

Because I've never been it's fascinating to read all the comments coming out of these camps with the new and developing talent on the teams this time of year.

[CaptainD]

Some of the media tweets are plain dumb. Not sure why they think a 1 on 1 drill is as big a deal as their making it. Bush always looks good in camp vs his own guys but vs someone else he gets burned consistently.

Really think you can read way too much into camp drills. True test is vs other teams IMHO.

[Tony Oday]

Well 1 v 1 does make sense for CBs

[George Cumby]

I have to make at least one this year. . . . .


The most memorable training camp ever was the time Josh Sitton took off his helmet and was beating Brady Poppinga with it. I was in the 2nd row. They were right up against the rails. They look big and intimidating on the field, but to see the one of the baddest Packers on our team rip off his helmet, rage out and beat someone with it right in front of you, close enough to see the sweat dripping off his scraggly beard and the look in his eyes. . . . . football is no joke. Either you're fearless or have enough fear to fight like your back is against the wall. There is no other way to do what they do.

Your TC reports are always a treat. Not to be a sycophant, but I find your insight is often more valuable than professional reporters.

Thanks in advance!

[denverYooper]

Tyler Dunne's Saturday Odds and Ends

First padded practice in the book for the #Packers. Here are some quick thoughts. Another solid practice for Casey Hayward. Rookie showing some early instincts, not afraid to make a play. ....Shields had another shaky practice and isn't in the team's dime package. ...Sharp day for Aaron Rodgers, which isn't a big surprise. Worked the perimeter well with Jordy Nelson and James Jones. ...Marshall Newhouse held up well at left tackle. Can't recall him allowing a serious pressure ...D.J. Williams continues to catch everything thrown to him. ...Undrafted OL Mike McCabe carted off with hip injury.

Damn Sam. I read somewhere else that Shields was pulled for Hayward.

[rbaloha1]

Tyler Dunne's Saturday Odds and Ends



Damn Sam. I read somewhere else that Shields was pulled for Hayward.

Hayward fits the profile of a zone corner for the Capers scheme. Capers like zone blitzes which is critical due to lack of pass rush.

[RashanGary]

DJ Williams and Hayward showing up big, early. There is a spot on our offense for Williams. I could see him playing an H-Back type role for us during the season.

Promising stuff coming out of camp so far. Shields had a bad day, but I don't know, a bad day does not make a career. We'll see. I'm pulling for him and House. They fit that "outside cover guy" mold.

I'd almost rather see Hayward as our dime guy, a guy who plays the inside spot opposite Woodson. I know he's savvy, and could be the starter, but that inside spot is complex. I'd almost rather see him get all of his work there so if Woodson goes down, we have a smart, instinctive corner to fill the role.

[Joemailman]

Wouldn't be surprised if Bishop is out for a while. Opportunity knocks again for D.J. Smith.

[RashanGary]

There is a vid on JS that shows some of Perry's ability. He pushes up field and put on a heck of a spin move against Datko. Looks quick on his feet, that's for sure.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/164155656.html#!page=1&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst