HOMER JUICE ON HAYWARD

[smuggler]

^ Beaten.

House was a rookie in 2011, so it wasn't his injury in 2010 that allowed Shields to slide into the CB spot.

[run pMc]

Agree, it wasn't House. Shields got the nod because the depth was that bad. Your CBs were Woodson, and an emerging Tramon, with backups like Pat Lee, J.Bush, Josh Gordy, and I think (?) Frank Walker. Yikes, I feel better about the CB depth now.

[smuggler]

To be fair, Tramon was pretty darn good in 2009 also.

[MJZiggy]

Packerrats + training camp = Cialis

Tease.

[Patler]

Agree, it wasn't House. Shields got the nod because the depth was that bad. Your CBs were Woodson, and an emerging Tramon, with backups like Pat Lee, J.Bush, Josh Gordy, and I think (?) Frank Walker. Yikes, I feel better about the CB depth
now.

Shields beat out mostly Lee, who was dinged up again and Brandon Underwood who was coming off the arrest for solicitation that Spring/early summer in the Dells, and was also hurt for a while. Both were given opportunity after opportunity in camp to be the 3rd corner, but had very disappointing camps. Shields sort of got the job as being the last man standing, while showing a lot of hustle.

Bush was playing cornety, or safeback, but mostly special teams.
Walker was here in 2007, long before Shields.
Josh Gordy was not with the Packers in TC that year, they signed him to the PS after the Jags released him.

[Guiness]

I think it was Lee's job to lose, and he did.

[BobDobbs]

I think what PBmax mentioned about Shields coming back with a big head is true. He came in as a free agent with one year at the position under his belt. He shines in camp. Then because of Al Harris' injury and the mediocre depth in back of him he easily wins the job. He plays well behind a strong pass rush. He picks off two in the NFC Championship and they win the freakin' Super Bowl. He had to feel like this NFL thing just isn't that hard.

I'm trying to determine if the coaches are really serious about the more physical player winning the spot, or if this is a strategy to make sure the Shields has to work hard to get on the field. He will never be our most physical corner, but he is so graceful around the ball. Bush can play well at the line, as a blitzer, and coming forward with the play in front of him. When he turns to run downfield he has a hell of a time finding the ball. I remember after Shield's first NFL interception Dom Capers said something to the effect of it's good to start grabbing a couple of those because teams feel like you want to toss a few at the new guy, But, once you start taking them away they have to think twice. Well, I think that Jarrett Bush is a great guy to throw a few up against. That's why I don't want to see him on the outside.

This is a much better secondary. I don't think that Hayward will see much of the field barring injury. But, injuries are part of the NFL and anytime a team faces a depleted secondary they are going to spread the field and see who you've got on the bench. It'll be great to have someone that can come in and play the position.

[Fritz]

"Well, I think that Jarrett Bush is a great guy to throw up about."

There. Fixed.

[pbmax]

Lee and Underwood, that was the competition. You could always count on them to underwhelm.

[smuggler]

I forgot that Al Harris actually owned for a little while.

[pbmax]

Well according to Silverstein and Dunne, House did move to the number 1 units today. Bush went back to #2s. He is still with the 1s in the dime.