Hawk my be in line for the Barnett treatment. . . . If not this year, next

[pittstang5]

Not watching the game, but I heard he got hurt.
What happened???

Went to make a tackle, bent back awkwardly and was rolled up on. On the field for a while. Two trainers assisted him off field, did not put any weight on it. Shaking his head the entire time coming off the field. I'm no doctor, but guessing ACL. At the very least, he's out for a couple weeks.

[OS PA]

Went to make a tackle, bent back awkwardly and was rolled up on. On the field for a while. Two trainers assisted him off field, did not put any weight on it. Shaking his head the entire time coming off the field. I'm no doctor, but guessing ACL. At the very least, he's out for a couple weeks.

I'd put my money on an injury to the patellar tendon.

[gbgary]

just read that bishop told teammates that he was optimistic that his injury isn't season ending.

[pbmax]

just read that bishop told teammates that he was optimistic that his injury isn't season ending.

Can't we just get NFL players to waive privacy rights and be able to look up their medical charts online like I do with my family? Would make this so much simpler.

[MadScientist]

Can't we just get NFL players to waive privacy rights and be able to look up their medical charts online like I do with my family? Would make this so much simpler.

They already must have some sort of waver in place or otherwise we couldn't even get the information we do get. In Bishop's case, the tests haven't been done so there isn't a full diagnosis to put out there.

Hopefully it is an MCL. Depressingly an MCL injury to Bishop is something to hope for.

[Brandon494]

Per JSOnline

Perhaps the most significant development occurred on the first play of the Packers' second defensive series. Linebacker Desmond Bishop tackled Ronnie Brown and the former Dolphin landed on Bishop's right knee. After several minutes, Bishop was helped off with what McCarthy said was a knee sprain and possible hamstring injury.

"That'd be tough," one scout said. "But D.J. Smith is a good player."

Without Bishop, A.J. Hawk would be in line for even more playing time.

"They wouldn't want that," said the scout, referring to the Packers.

[hoosier]

As much as I want to see Bishop back in the middle by sometime in November, their season does not ride on him any more than it did on Finley or Barnett in 2010. There are three, four maybe five players the Packers cannot afford to lose. Bishop isn't one of them.

[mraynrand]

Without Bishop, A.J. Hawk would be in line for even more playing time.

"They wouldn't want that," said the scout, referring to the Packers.

LOL. I'm posting on another site and they are giving me hell for suggesting that Hawk could have at least given Gates a shot on his TD route instead of deliberately getting out of his way. Hey, who is the biggest receiving weapon on the SD offense? Could it be Gates? No, really? Did Hawk blow an assignment - no. But there's nothing special there at all. No edge, no oomph, just a pud who is maybe the 9th best guy on the field for the defense.

[Joemailman]

They already must have some sort of waver in place or otherwise we couldn't even get the information we do get. In Bishop's case, the tests haven't been done so there isn't a full diagnosis to put out there.

Hopefully it is an MCL. Depressingly an MCL injury to Bishop is something to hope for.

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/page.php?page_id=278

The Green Bay Press-Gazette’s Rob Demovsky reported that the concern is about Bishop’s hamstring and that his knee actually is OK.

[pbmax]

The source said the fear is that the Green Bay Packers starting inside linebacker will miss a good portion of the season, if not the entire season.

Oh my.

[pbmax]

A more telling thing might be this:

WTMJ pregame show had a roundtable discussion. Topics were presented, and everyone had to respond.
First question - Which player that will surprise many fans could be in danger of losing their spot?

First directed to Vic Ketchman, and he instantly said A.J Hawk. Then explained - DJ Smith is looking very good, and when you consider the others providing depth, Hawk could be in trouble.

Others mentioned were Starks, Walden, any and all backup O-linemen.

Did the powers that are the Packers tell Ketchman to put that kernel of thought out there?


Incidentally, Mark Tauscher was also a participant, along with the standard WTMJ characters. Tauscher did a very nice job. Hope he is a regular.

I think he is as he has been hired by Journal Sentinel communications and they have ties to the radio broadcast (obviously) and need to find programming for McCarren to be a part of as well. Tauscher probably plays a role there as well.

Ketchman doesn't grasp, or has been told it doesn't matter, that Smith does not practice at Hawk's spot. Several people I have read said Walden looked like he had regained his pass rush after loosing it after his arrest last year. He might be harder to shake than people assume. So'oto, at this point, seems so far to annually beat up on the bottom of the roster guys but struggle versus better competition (like he has faced in camp).

[MadScientist]

That would indicate a nasty tear of the hamstring, not a run of the mill hamstring injury. Still better than destroying a knee. I hope.

[rbaloha1]

Kampman was borderline elite for 2+ years. Hawk was never anywhere near that level at LB.

The issue was AK was a bad fit for olb but a great fit for a 4-3 de. Packers got nothing for Kampman.

Prior to the Bishop injury a Hawk trade maybe yields a low round draft pick. Now we are forced to keep an overpaid first base coach.

[Patler]

Ketchman doesn't grasp, or has been told it doesn't matter, that Smith does not practice at Hawk's spot. Several people I have read said Walden looked like he had regained his pass rush after loosing it after his arrest last year. He might be harder to shake than people assume. So'oto, at this point, seems so far to annually beat up on the bottom of the roster guys but struggle versus better competition (like he has faced in camp).

I read this morning that they had practiced some subpackages that included Bishop and Smith on the field at the same time.

[pbmax]

I read this morning that they had practiced some subpackages that included Bishop and Smith on the field at the same time.

Any idea what package? Was it nickel? Would seem to be the natural place to start.

M3 will talk after practice today, so we might get some updates on Bishop and House. House Tweeted that he is looking at his MRI this morning with the Doctor.