Shawne Merriman!

[Patler]

Where does it say that? If SM is unwilling to go thru a tryout first forget it. Unsure how much leverage SM has given his current situation.

Are you guys now saying a tryout should not happen due to protocol or declining stats?

Where does it say what?

Depends what you mean by "tryout".

[rbaloha1]

Where does it say what?

Depends what you mean by "tryout".

Again "tryout" is to prove SM is worthy of a contract offer at whatever time the Packers do not have to risk much money.

IMO SM does not have many options or leverage.

[Lurker64]

Again "tryout" is to prove SM is worthy of a contract offer at whatever time the Packers do not have to risk much money.

IMO SM does not have many options or leverage.

What I'm trying to tell you is "trying out" like you're saying is simply not a thing that is done for NFL players. When they've been out of football for an extensive period of time, yes. When a veteran got cut after the second preseason game, and the third preseason game hasn't happened yet, no. It just doesn't happen.

If you want to bring him in to talk contract, maybe he'll visit if he thinks you're serious, but NFL players generally don't want to visit Green Bay without a serious contract offer in hand.

[rbaloha1]

Because practice, which is where you "try out" is open to the media during the preseason. Benson never appeared at practice before he signed. NFL veterans just don't do that sort of thing. When a player is brought in for a "tryout" this is reported in the media and (at least in the preseason) the media gets to watch.

When you sign a guy off the couch you may bring him in for a "workout" (rather than a "tryout") just to check conditioning, whether they can run and cut, etc. But there's no reason to do that with Merriman since there's nothing you could learn about Merriman by bringing him in for a workout that you couldn't learn from watching Bills preseason tape. If you called him and asked him to come in either for a tryout or workout, his agent would inform you of the fact that you can see him on tape in the first two Bills preseason games, and that should be all you need to see to conclude that he's healthy.

Okay I mean workout. All 32 teams evaluate differently. How can you say nothing can be determined by a TT workout?

[rbaloha1]

What I'm trying to tell you is "trying out" like you're saying is simply not a thing that is done for NFL players. When they've been out of football for an extensive period of time, yes. When a veteran got cut after the second preseason game, and the third preseason game hasn't happened yet, no. It just doesn't happen.

If you want to bring him in to talk contract, maybe he'll visit if he thinks you're serious, but NFL players generally don't want to visit Green Bay without a serious contract offer in hand.

B.S.

[Lurker64]

Okay I mean workout. All 32 teams evaluate differently. How can you say nothing can be determined by a TT workout?

If you call Merriman's agent right now and say "hey, we want to bring in Shawne for a workout" the agent's response would be something like "He played extensively in two of Buffalo's preseason games, don't you guys employ pro scouts?"

Since the Packers do employ pro scouts, the workout would be unnecessary.

[rbaloha1]

If you call Merriman's agent right now and say "hey, we want to bring in Shawne for a workout" the agent's response would be something like "He played extensively in two of Buffalo's preseason games, don't you guys employ pro scouts?"

Since the Packers do employ pro scouts, the workout would be unnecessary.

How do you know?

[Lurker64]

How do you know?

How do I know that the Packers employ pro scouts?

http://www.packers.com/team/staff/glenn-cook/ff99403f-35ca-46f3-9371-c42b72fa6675

http://www.packers.com/team/staff/chad-brinker/71033491-e5d6-4144-9e3c-7e3e6f90461b

It's these guys jobs to know the answer to the question "Hey, can Shawne Merriman still play?" before you even make a phone call. Are you accusing them of incompetence?

[rbaloha1]

How do I know that the Packers employ pro scouts?

http://www.packers.com/team/staff/glenn-cook/ff99403f-35ca-46f3-9371-c42b72fa6675

http://www.packers.com/team/staff/chad-brinker/71033491-e5d6-4144-9e3c-7e3e6f90461b

It's these guys jobs to know the answer to the question "Hey, can Shawne Merriman still play?" before you even make a phone call. Are you accusing them of incompetence?

Okay wise guy. How do you know refers to how do you know his agent is saying your self-created nonsense not the scouting nonsense.

Dude go play with yourself already.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Dude go play with yourself already.

How do you know he's not already?

[rbaloha1]

How do you know he's not already?

You are right -- my bad.

[Cheesehead Craig]

You are right -- my bad.

How do you know you're bad?

[rbaloha1]

How do you know you're bad?

Your right Aristotle. LOL

[Cheesehead Craig]

Your right Aristotle. LOL

How do you know I'm Aristotle?

[rbaloha1]

How do you know I'm Aristotle?

By utilizing the same ditto head logic.