First cutdown time

[Lurker64]

The Packers have to be down to 75 players by August 27, and they play their next preseason game on August 30th. So there are 15 players with their heads on the chopping block right now. Who are they?

I figure the first round of cuts is "guys you're not even interested in bringing back on the PS (the other 22 cuts can be those guys) and would probably include "guys who are ineligible for the PS who aren't going to make the team."

I'm pretty certain that "no NFL future" players like Shaky Smithson are gone, as are the "injured and not that good" crew of people like Frank Zombo and Johnny Jones.

Any predictions?

[rbaloha1]

This is unlikely but imo Ross and Richardson are better safety prospects than Levine and Jennings.

I would also cut Starks and Shields. Cut Harrell only when a better backup becomes available either via trade or pickup.

[Lurker64]

This is unlikely but imo Ross and Richardson are better safety prospects than Levine and Jennings.

I would also cut Starks and Shields. Cut Harrell only when a better backup becomes available either via trade or pickup.

Bradian Ross has only played CB for the Packers, not S. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't cut Shields at this point, the hopes that he can reclaim his 2010 form and his special teams value is enough to keep him on the team.

I mean, guys like Dion Turner, Jon Hoese, Andrew Brewer, Brandon Bostick, Shea Allard, Duane Bennet, Curenski Gilleyen, Micah Pellerin, and Tommie Draheim have to be preferable cuts over guys who have started for this team.

Guys like Zombo, Bennett, and Dominguez could be easily waived/injured in order to put them to IR (while first exposing them to waivers.)

[rbaloha1]

Bradian Ross has only played CB for the Packers, not CB. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't cut Shields at this point, the hopes that he can reclaim his 2010 form and his special teams value is enough to keep him on the team.

I mean, guys like Dion Turner, Jon Hoese, Andrew Brewer, Brandon Bostick, Shea Allard, Duane Bennet, Curenski Gilleyen, Micah Pellerin, and Tommie Draheim have to be preferable cuts over guys who have started for this team.

On the depth chart Ross is listed as a safety. All the paragraph 2 guys are definite cuts. Shields is probably early but makes too many mistakes and yes Bush has stepped up and maybe is the best tackling secondary player.

Cutting SS now allows more reps for other players with more upside potential.

[rbaloha1]

Stand corrected Ross is listed as a corner on depth chart. IMO could play safety if needed.

[gbgary]

shields looked like he was going to be starter for several years...now look at him.

[Brandon494]

cut Starks and Shields?

[RashanGary]

It will narrow a lot of the questions down once those cuts go through.

[Lurker64]

Cutting SS now allows more reps for other players with more upside potential.

There are very few people on this roster who are not currently starters with more upside than Sam Shields. If nothing else, his value on special teams is worth keeping him around, as his speed makes him a quality gunner. I mean, I like Otis Merrill, but Shields has a lot more inborn talent. Shields has the vertical speed to match the NFL's fastest receivers stride for stride... Otis Merrill ain't got that.

Remember, the bottom of the roster spots are generally decided by special teams, which is why the team won't keep that many reserve DL since the ST value of those guys is minimal.

[Guiness]

cut Starks and Shields?

how quickly we turn on them, eh?

Remember that time they were both rookies who started on our SB winning team? Ancient history...

[LegandofthePack15]

Shields is the mother of inconsistency but I DON'T think he's going to get cut. He's good enough, and the Packers don't have enough CBs who are good enough. Shields and House are the only pimp cbs (players capable of playing) on the roster other than Woodson and Williams.

Hayward is raw and needs to redshirt. Bush should not be allowed to play from scrimmage. The rest are bums.

Personally, I am rooting for Shields b/c of his 97 speed on Madden.

[smuggler]

Hayward forced a fumble and played well against the Bengals.

[rbaloha1]

cut Starks and Shields?

I know its hard to believe. These 2 dudes were big contributors to the super bowl.

Starks is unable to stay healthy and is inconsistent. Benson is the real deal. Green is getting in sync. Tyler is serviceable and good in the screen game. Can not make the team from the tub.

Shields still peaks in the backfield and bites on double move. SS is not playing with confidence. Its hard to believe but Bush is outplaying Shields. IMO House, Heyward and Ross have outperformed SS. Speed can keep you in the league (Chris Johnson previous Packer 7th round pick with SS type speed and current Raider).

As previous Hawaii Warrior Head Coach used to say -- Believe your eyes. My eyes say Starks and SS should not be on the final roster.

[rbaloha1]

There are very few people on this roster who are not currently starters with more upside than Sam Shields. If nothing else, his value on special teams is worth keeping him around, as his speed makes him a quality gunner. I mean, I like Otis Merrill, but Shields has a lot more inborn talent. Shields has the vertical speed to match the NFL's fastest receivers stride for stride... Otis Merrill ain't got that.

Remember, the bottom of the roster spots are generally decided by special teams, which is why the team won't keep that many reserve DL since the ST value of those guys is minimal.

Speed is useless if you are continually easily beat. SS also has poor ball skills. Running stride for stride is only part of the equation.

SS is having a bad camp.

[Patler]

I know its hard to believe. These 2 dudes were big contributors to the super bowl.

Starks is unable to stay healthy and is inconsistent. Benson is the real deal. Green is getting in sync. Tyler is serviceable and good in the screen game. Can not make the team from the tub.

Shields still peaks in the backfield and bites on double move. SS is not playing with confidence. Its hard to believe but Bush is outplaying Shields. IMO House, Heyward and Ross have outperformed SS. Speed can keep you in the league (Chris Johnson previous Packer 7th round pick with SS type speed and current Raider).

As previous Hawaii Warrior Head Coach used to say -- Believe your eyes. My eyes say Starks and SS should not be on the final roster.

I don't think they are ready to give up on Shields yet, but he is really going to have to earn his playing time. There is room on the roster to keep him.

Starks is in a different situation. Tyler has surprised me. He could become the third down back they are looking for. Reportedly, the coaches love Saine's reliability. He just doesn't make mistakes. Although, if he doesn't get on the field, too, he could be in trouble. Benson and Green seem to be locks.

When you look at that group, Starks no longer looks so appealing. He has been hurt constantly since college, he makes too many mistakes, and his running has been inconsistent.

Benson can take all the snaps that would have gone to Starks. Saine and/or Tyler can work into the third down role. Green can be Benson's sub. I don't see a need for Starks, especially in view of his injury history.