Panthers v Jets

[Iron Mike]

With his shoulder? Old fashioned football?

Eddie Shore?

[pbmax]

You're not kidding, are you? Please tell me you aren't.

I am not kidding. But he wouldn't be much of a step up. But Sanchez is just an awful starter.

[pbmax]

George Seifert was successful in San Fran with 2 hall of fame QB's and Mike Holmgren and Mike Shanahan as offensive coordinators during his Super Bowl years. That helps a hell of a lot! But he was smart enough to let them run the offense which might be half the battle to having a good transition from defensive coordinator to head coach.

Good choice. And that fits my theory, he left the offense alone.

[Pugger]

It was interesting to see a breakdown of Tebow's throwing motion last night. He turns his hand so you can see the back of it in a cocking motion before he releases the ball. His mechanics suck. It is a shame nobody taught him how to throw the ball when he was in HS or a Florida Gator. That kid needed to go to a team with decent QB coaches. I think with a competent teacher he can become a serviceable NFL QB but lord knows if anybody in NY is gonna fix his throwing motion.

[pbmax]

It was interesting to see a breakdown of Tebow's throwing motion last night. He turns his hand so you can see the back of it in a cocking motion before he releases the ball. His mechanics suck. It is a shame nobody taught him how to throw the ball when he was in HS or a Florida Gator. That kid needed to go to a team with decent QB coaches. I think with a competent teacher he can become a serviceable NFL QB but lord knows if anybody in NY is gonna fix his throwing motion.

The best description of his motion is elongated. Both before when he had a big loop (or hitch/drop the football) low like someone throwing an eephus pitch and now when he has made it more straight-line and eliminated the ball dip, it takes a while for that thing to get going and I think it has a couple of effects.

1. As Collingworth pointed out, its a tenth of a second delay from Sanchez who stinks out loud. That may not be long, but ...

2. Its a red flag in front of the bulls in the secondary. Because when that windup starts, its not stopping. He is throwing with all his might. If he tried to pull it down his shoulder would dislocate and the ball would hit the deck. So if you can see him when he starts to throw, there need be no hesitation about where its going. No pump fakes for Timmy. And when he stares down receivers, it just too easy to read.

3. The more motion in a movement, the better chance something is going to be off slightly. So it enhances his inaccuracy.

You can see the kinds of routes that work of for him. Someone running deep that has turned around the defender so they can't see the ball thrown. Or comebacks, where the WR gets between the ball and the defender and likely has gotten enough depth to begin to turn the defender around.

[QBME]

I think this game could well set back offensive football 30 years.

I heard on the radio this morning that the Jets have not scored a touchdown the entire preseason. Not a single stinkin' touchdown.

[Cheesehead Craig]

OK. What defensive coaches have made a successful transition to HC and not screwed up their offenses? How did they do it?

Tomlin has done a decent job with Pittsburgh. It's not fantastic but it's not bloody awful either.

[pbmax]

Tomlin has done a decent job with Pittsburgh. It's not fantastic but it's not bloody awful either.

Good point, but there has been some intrigue there as well. I think he inherited Arians (not sure if team insisted or not) and Rothliesberger loved him. Arians was WR coach then promoted to OC.

Now they have a legacy candidate in Todd Haley as OC (his Dad was front office fixture). We'll see.

Pittsburgh is famous for keeping Head Coaches around but they are also famous for meddling with assistants and personnel authority. Its part of what drove Cowher away.