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  • Article: Green Bay's offense doesn't need Benson

    Lots of tables, that I won't bother to reproduce, so you should just click through to this one:


    Fair use snippet:

    The Packers' rushing issues the last four season aren't a secret. But does this matter in today’s NFL?

    If you have an elite quarterback, you can consistently win without a running game. Whether it’s rushing for under 100 yards or not exceeding 30 carries, the teams with the very best quarterbacks are the ones that still win those types of games.

    Of course, what separates Rodgers from the other elite quarterbacks is the way he takes matters into his own hands in the running game, scrambling for yards to inflate his team’s rushing statistics. That is why it’s good to remove quarterback carries from a team’s rushing stats to get a better sense of their intended ground game (handoffs only).

    When you remove Rodgers from the stats, the results of Green Bay’s rushing offense are not pretty. In his 68 career starts (including playoffs), the Packers only average 21.9 carries for 88.2 yards (4.02 yards per carry). In spite of the running game, their record is 45-23 (.662).

    In fact, no matter what Green Bay does on the ground, Rodgers usually plays at a high level, as seen in Table 2.
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  • #2
    Benson will matter when we are up in the 4th and he is pounding the defense for 5 yard gains and then a play action on 2nd and 5 goes for 6 because the D is cheating a guy closer to the line to stop Benson.
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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    • #3
      Nonsense.

      In November - January is when Benson's true value surfaces.

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      • #4
        No shit the Packers can win without a good running game. And no shit improving the defense will make a bigger difference than Benson. But having a back that commands a little respect is a good thing. Anything that will keep the defense from pinning their ears back and trying to kill AR is a great thing. Benson is more likely to command respect than Grant or Starks, and anytime you can get a cheap upgrade, it's worth doing.
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        • #5
          Someone wasn't watching that debacle against the Giants last postseason.
          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by King Friday View Post
            Someone wasn't watching that debacle against the Giants last postseason.
            I did and some stick'em would have won that game!
            Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by King Friday View Post
              Someone wasn't watching that debacle against the Giants last postseason.
              Packers didn't lose that game because they couldn't run the ball. The Packers lost that game because they couldn't hang onto the ball or defend the pass.
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              • #8
                Benson's presence will make our play-action deadly.

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                • #9
                  The O might not NEED Benson. But it's nice to have an legit ground threat.

                  I'm fine with our offensive embarassment of riches......

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                    Benson's presence will make our play-action deadly.
                    Wow can you imagine!?
                    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                      Someone wasn't watching that debacle against the Giants last postseason.
                      Benson hasn't helped anyone hang on to the football yet this camp.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                        Benson will matter when we are up in the 4th and he is pounding the defense for 5 yard gains and then a play action on 2nd and 5 goes for 6 because the D is cheating a guy closer to the line to stop Benson.
                        I do buy this. Rather than leak away a winning margin in the 4 minute offense (like in the reg season Giants game), they do stand a better chance of piling up a 4th down.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Benson hasn't helped anyone hang on to the football yet this camp.
                          Has Benson caught it? I believe he has, though admittedly on my feed, the ball is only 2 px...
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                            Packers didn't lose that game because they couldn't run the ball. The Packers lost that game because they couldn't hang onto the ball or defend the pass.
                            Spot on! But I like Benson nonetheless.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              I do buy this. Rather than leak away a winning margin in the 4 minute offense (like in the reg season Giants game), they do stand a better chance of piling up a 4th down.
                              Yup. Benson makes us better, but the true test is can we grind clock when teams know we are going to run. Also, can we convert 3rd and short even if everyone knows we have no intention of passing?

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