Early Season Adjustments

[pbmax]

In order to claim the Packers ran for less than 4 yards per carry, you have had to invent your own class of run plays. Its a statistic without context. You want to convey the idea that the run game is suffering (less than 4ypc), but conventional stats won't make that case for you. So you have invented one. If you provide running stats for the rest of the league using your new definition, it might be worth looking at.

But it should be unnecessary. The offense is not firing on all cylinders and its obvious. The Bears game just doesn't follow your narrative that the Packers aren't physical enough.

As for short yardage, its a small sample size.

As for Cutler being Cutler, 4 Ints and 7 sacks was listed on the broadcast as not having been achieved by any player in nearly a decade. So not even Cutler can do it to himself that often.

[wist43]

In order to claim the Packers ran for less than 4 yards per carry, you have had to invent your own class of run plays. Its a statistic without context. You want to convey the idea that the run game is suffering (less than 4ypc), but conventional stats won't make that case for you. So you have invented one. If you provide running stats for the rest of the league using your new definition, it might be worth looking at.

But it should be unnecessary. The offense is not firing on all cylinders and its obvious. The Bears game just doesn't follow your narrative that the Packers aren't physical enough.

As for short yardage, its a small sample size.

As for Cutler being Cutler, 4 Ints and 7 sacks was listed on the broadcast as not having been achieved by any player in nearly a decade. So not even Cutler can do it to himself that often.

Give it up max... I said I was only looking at base run plays; and in going back and looking at the tape, Capers did run a 3-4 base predominately in the 2nd half. Still, his 2-4 nickel base, and 1-10 dime are gimmick bullshit, and a good team beats the hell of 'em. I have an entire season of record setting woefulness to back me up on that. You do realize that Capers and the Packers set the all-time NFL record for passing yds allowed last season?? That said, Cutler to the rescue.

If you want to go on thinking the '12 Packers are the '86 Bears, go right on thinking that.

[pbmax]

I hold out no hope the Packers are the '86 Bears defense. But I think they stand a good chance of being the '10 Packers D. Which should be good enough.

[Smeefers]

Take the emotion out of the Bear game and just break it down for what really happened on the field, and it was all about Cutler. If Cutler doesn't play like Cutler, it is a very close game that we very well could have lost - and certainly Packer nation would be singing a different tune.

You know, if Cutler played lights out, but thier defense stunk, then we would have won. Or, if Cutler played good and we didn't have those drops by Jordy and Jones, then we still probably would have won. Oh, If Forte hadn't gotten injured, but our defense found a way to stop him, and then Jones played better, but that corner of theirs played worse and Lance Briggs only played marginally better, I'm sure the Bears would have won.

[denverYooper]

You know, if Cutler played lights out, but thier defense stunk, then we would have won. Or, if Cutler played good and we didn't have those drops by Jordy and Jones, then we still probably would have won. Oh, If Forte hadn't gotten injured, but our defense found a way to stop him, and then Jones played better, but that corner of theirs played worse and Lance Briggs only played marginally better, I'm sure the Bears would have won.

It was odd. Their line played lights out but Cutler still stank. I mean, usually when you see a guy get that kind of protection he's just lighting it up.

[pbmax]

wrong thread

[Joemailman]

I hold out no hope the Packers are the '86 Bears defense. But I think they stand a good chance of being the '10 Packers D. Which should be good enough.

Yes it would. Tramon and Shields look pretty close to being where they were in 2010. That's the good news. The bad news is Burnett isn't making me forget about Nick Collins. Whether Burnett can improve enough to get the defense to 2010 remains to be seen.

[Smidgeon]

Yes it would. Tramon and Shields look pretty close to being where they were in 2010. That's the good news. The bad news is Burnett isn't making me forget about Nick Collins. Whether Burnett can improve enough to get the defense to 2010 remains to be seen.

My prognostication is that McMillian will be closer to being a Collins replacement than Burnett will. The boy can run, hit, he fills the lanes, and he likes catching the ball. Give him experience, and he'll be a terror. I like Burnett too, but he just seems a little more finesse.

[gbgary]

lineup-shakeup

[Packers4Glory]

lineup-shakeup

keep playn em. get this young defense experience. They'll only get better. Pus we have House sitting there recovering who showed a lot of promise early in camp.

[mraynrand]

Six rookies - Hayward, McMillian, Moses, Daniels, Nick Perry and Jerel Worthy - played integral parts in a game the Packers couldn't afford to lose. It takes some guts to make that call.

6 rookies - 6 - on defense alone. That tells you everything you need to know about how bad this defense was last year...and last week.

[rbaloha1]

6 rookies - 6 - on defense alone. That tells you everything you need to know about how bad this defense was last year...and last week.

These guys should have played more in the niner game.

Finally Capers admitted personnel mistakes.