nick perry

[HarveyWallbangers]

I know what I saw, and I saw him get a few pressures late in the game. However, he did it, he did it. And the stats from Pro Football Focus confirm what my eyes saw (3 hurries in 20 snaps). That's solid production. I'm pretty sure he was the one to draw the holding call on the near Smith interception late in the game.

[KYPack]

KY Pack:


I don't like the way your views are heading!

Yeah, I was thinking of him or Jeremy Thompson.

It's too early to condemn the kid to hell, for sure.

20 snaps and he did a little something on 3 of 'em?

Sure, that's fine. He's much too limited for 50 - 60 snaps, spot him here and there and let's get him going.

[Brandon494]

I really don't think he's played poorly at all. Again, you can't have a rookie OLB standing up in the slot against Michael Crabtree. He'd make Clay look silly too.

You guys are reaching.

Whats new?

[Pugger]

Didn't Perry injure his wrist against SF on Sunday?

[Lurker64]

Perry was always an upside pick. It was TT saying "I trust that this kid is willing and able to learn, and I trust my coaches to mold him into the player he can be." The Packers coaches are pretty good coaches, but they're not miracle workers. The Perry we saw towards the end of the preseason had come so far from a player who had literally never played in space before that it looked like Kevin Green was a miracle worker, but even so he wasn't close to "NFL starting caliber OLB".

Give it time, he should play more as the season goes on, and can still be useful in spots.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Takeaways. Perry played poorly last week. Walden wasn't available. Walden played more this week, but some of that had to do with a wrist injury to Perry. Both were productive on Thursday (including 3 hurries in 15 pass rushes for Perry). Pretty much all things that have been said before on this site.

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20120915/PKR01/120915025/OLB-Erik-Walden-rolls-back-into-Green-Bay-Packers-rotation?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

According to Pro Football Focus, it was one of the more suspect Week 1 performances from any 3-4 outside linebacker in the league, but that wasn’t why Walden cut into his playing time on Thursday, beginning on the defense’s second series.

Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers said Friday that Perry suffered a wrist injury against the 49ers that lingered through the shortened practice week and forced him to wear a protector...

In the early going, Perry has shown a staunch bull rush that can cause opposing tackles fits, but he’s also been shaky at times in coverage.

The 26-year-old Walden isn’t nearly as flashy, but is hungry...

On Thursday, both players had their moments with Perry producing three quarterback hurries from the left side in 15 pass-rushing snaps and Walden being credited with a shared sack with Matthews in the first quarter.

Later, Walden brought heavy pressure on Bears quarterback Jay Cutler to force an errant throw that led to a Charles Woodson interception.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Did Jamal Reynolds ever have more than 1 hurry in 15 pass rush attempts?

[KYPack]

Did Jamal Reynolds ever have more than 1 hurry in 15 pass rush attempts?

I believe Jamal's lifetime achievement consisted of getting out of his stance a few times.

[pbmax]

I believe Jamal's lifetime achievement consisted of getting out of his stance a few times.

Rarely have seen someone line up with starters who looked less ready to play in the NFL. He belonged on an expansion team.

I just hope McCarthy isn't just blowing smoke and Perry at least rotates in to develop if he doesn't claim the job.

[HarveyWallbangers]

To be fair, I think there's validity to what KY is saying. Perry can't cover right now, and I'm not sure he ever will be able to. He's pretty stiff. However, he's a pretty good pass rusher right now. I just rewatched the game, and in the two series that he played in the 4th quarter he had at least 3 three pressures. I actually counted 4. On the series that starts at 9:14, he used a speed rush around the corner on first down and met Matthews at the QB--resulting in a near interception. On second down he was double-teamed by two OL. He didn't quit on the play though, and got mild pressure. (I wouldn't count it as a pressure though). On third down he used a speed rush around the corner again and provided pressure--which forced Cutler to step up into the pocket. In the Bears last series, he again used a speed rush to get around the corner and got a pressure on an early down. On McMillian's interception, he was the one who got pressure on Cutler that forced the poor throw. I think that was more of a bull rush. It's clear the guy can get after the QB--even as a rookie. His bull rush is legit and he has surprising speed around the edge. I'd say he has two above average pass rush moves already. He just isn't very flexible in coverage. I'm not sure he ever will be. Fortunately, it looks like Walden has rebounded from his midseason slump from last year, and he looks solid. I feel good in saying that Perry will be quite useful when teams are forced to play from behind against us though. Add Daniels and Worthy and there is hope for this pass rush.

Two interesting things I noticed:

1) There were plays when Raji played LDE and Pickett played NT. That's a change from last year, and it's how they were lined up before last year. I like that. I actually like Pickett at NT and Raji at LDE.
2) The Bears twice chose to double Perry (once with two OL and once with the RT and a RB) and leave Matthews one-on-one.

[sharpe1027]

I have to agree with KY in some respects. I think he will get rotated, so he won't be getting all the snaps. The main reason is that he limits what Capers can do/call. His pass coverage is non-existent. If they put Walden out there, he has shown to be adequate in coverage.

I disagree that he hasn't shown the ability to get to the QB and hold up against the run. He may not have a sack, but he's due. Most importantly, he is already creating more pressure than any of our OLBers last year (Matthews excluded). Of course, that's not saying much.

[pbmax]

Two interesting things I noticed:

1) There were plays when Raji played LDE and Pickett played NT. That's a change from last year, and it's how they were lined up before last year. I like that. I actually like Pickett at NT and Raji at LDE.
2) The Bears twice chose to double Perry (once with two OL and once with the RT and a RB) and leave Matthews one-on-one.

I saw Raji at end with Pickett at nose, but did you see a 3 man line or was it a 2-4?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I saw Raji at end with Pickett at nose, but did you see a 3 man line or was it a 2-4?

I didn't look that close. I thought Pickett normally comes off in that 2-4 look? Generally, that look will be Raji with Worthy or Daniels, right? Or even Worthy and Daniels when they want to give Raji a breather.

[Smeefers]

I just can't figure out why Perry looks so much like a defensive end and not like an olb.

[pbmax]

I didn't look that close. I thought Pickett normally comes off in that 2-4 look? Generally, that look will be Raji with Worthy or Daniels, right? Or even Worthy and Daniels when they want to give Raji a breather.

Pickett is not there if they fully expect pass. Then its as you describe. But if its an either/or down, he does play in the 2 man line occasionally. When I saw him at nose and Raji on his left (twice I think, both early) I thought it was a 2 man line but neither time did I have enough time to identify the rest of the front seven.