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  • #16
    I think we can trace it back to this...

    A.J. Hawk decides to start popping the hell out of people...starting with this guy
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    • #17
      Hawk is playing more aggressive and attacking the line of scrimmage instead of just catching ball carriers and offensive linemen. He isn't worried about getting into his drops quickly. He seems faster at diagnosing the play, and he is showing quickness from sideline to sideline.

      That is what I am seeing during the games. I think having come out on Dime is also a big plus to the rest of his game. Part of the improvement in the defense is playing teams that are known to rely more on the run. and implementing a conservative game plan.

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      • #18
        I honestly really like Hawk this year. Actually typed "love" but decided I'd still like to see some turnovers and the like from him. But if it doesn't happen and he keeps playing like this... it's kind of a contract year even though he has one. It's been said we're going to cut him after this season but he's making it hard to think like that.

        Definitely should have lost weight a long time ago.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mission View Post
          I honestly really like Hawk this year. Actually typed "love" but decided I'd still like to see some turnovers and the like from him. But if it doesn't happen and he keeps playing like this... it's kind of a contract year even though he has one. It's been said we're going to cut him after this season but he's making it hard to think like that.

          Definitely should have lost weight a long time ago.
          He's definitely had a hit or two where he demolished the ball carrier and wrapped up. Now if he'd been doing that from year one instead of year seven or eight...
          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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          • #20
            I'd like to see him stop over pursuing in the running lanes. Then I'll say he's playing well this year.
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            This is museum quality stupidity.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Zool View Post
              I'd like to see him stop over pursuing in the running lanes. Then I'll say he's playing well this year.
              Sure and congrats with post # 8000 !
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                Hawk is playing more aggressive and attacking the line of scrimmage instead of just catching ball carriers and offensive linemen. He isn't worried about getting into his drops quickly. He seems faster at diagnosing the play, and he is showing quickness from sideline to sideline.

                That is what I am seeing during the games. I think having come out on Dime is also a big plus to the rest of his game. Part of the improvement in the defense is playing teams that are known to rely more on the run. and implementing a conservative game plan.
                yup
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                • #23
                  Well the only two major changes in our D so far this year are Bishop gone and Peprah for Jennings/McMillan.
                  You forgot about Nick Perry.

                  Hawk is off to a better year -- so far. Then again, last season was historically bad for GB's D. Agree he shouldn't be in the dime D, and it's nice to see him blow up guys. If he plays more like he did in 2010 then there will be less Haterade drinkers.

                  I suspect improvements elsewhere have something to do with his play: subbing in Worthy, Daniels, Merling, etc. has to help Raji, Pickett, etc. play better which affects the LBs. Not sure if/how Bishop's injury has affected his responsibilities. Capers has made some other changes to the defense that are helping. For a rookie from a small school, McMillian hasn't embarrassed himself, and is a better athlete than Peprah. Finally, SF, CHI, and SEA aren't exactly offensive powerhouses. NO will be a good test.

                  Hawk is never going to be a flashy, 12 sacks, 4 Ints kind of LB. He is what he is...smart, consistent, team player, doesn't get hurt. In many ways, he's like an anti-Merriman.

                  Hawk is also overpaid, but with Bishop's injury his roster spot is certainly safe this year.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                    You forgot about Nick Perry.

                    Hawk is off to a better year -- so far. Then again, last season was historically bad for GB's D. Agree he shouldn't be in the dime D, and it's nice to see him blow up guys. If he plays more like he did in 2010 then there will be less Haterade drinkers.

                    I suspect improvements elsewhere have something to do with his play: subbing in Worthy, Daniels, Merling, etc. has to help Raji, Pickett, etc. play better which affects the LBs. Not sure if/how Bishop's injury has affected his responsibilities. Capers has made some other changes to the defense that are helping. For a rookie from a small school, McMillian hasn't embarrassed himself, and is a better athlete than Peprah. Finally, SF, CHI, and SEA aren't exactly offensive powerhouses. NO will be a good test.

                    Hawk is never going to be a flashy, 12 sacks, 4 Ints kind of LB. He is what he is...smart, consistent, team player, doesn't get hurt. In many ways, he's like an anti-Merriman.

                    Hawk is also overpaid, but with Bishop's injury his roster spot is certainly safe this year.
                    After Walden was back from suspension Perry has been a situation player.

                    Yes I am busting Brandon's balls and his Hawk hate. Last year you could pick almost anyone on our D and they had a bad year.

                    I just went thru the last 5 years of NFL stats and your assumption of 12 sacks 4 INT players doesn't exist.

                    Here are the players that had 8 or more sacks and 3 or more INTs in the last 5 years:

                    No one

                    The closest stat I can find is 8 or more sacks and more than 1 INT in the last 5 years to find any one. They are:

                    2011 T Suggs 14sacks 2 INTs
                    2010 J Allen 11s 2 INTs
                    2010 J Harrison 10.5s 2 INTs
                    2010 L Woodley 10s 2 INTs
                    2010 J Peppers 8s 2 INTs
                    2009 J Peppers 10.5s 2 INTs
                    2008 T Suggs 8s 2 INTs
                    2007 J Peterson 11s 2 INTs
                    2007 S Phillips 8.5s 2 INTs
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                      After Walden was back from suspension Perry has been a situation player.

                      Yes I am busting Brandon's balls and his Hawk hate. Last year you could pick almost anyone on our D and they had a bad year.

                      I just went thru the last 5 years of NFL stats and your assumption of 12 sacks 4 INT players doesn't exist.

                      Here are the players that had 8 or more sacks and 3 or more INTs in the last 5 years:

                      No one

                      The closest stat I can find is 8 or more sacks and more than 1 INT in the last 5 years to find any one. They are:

                      2011 T Suggs 14sacks 2 INTs
                      2010 J Allen 11s 2 INTs
                      2010 J Harrison 10.5s 2 INTs
                      2010 L Woodley 10s 2 INTs
                      2010 J Peppers 8s 2 INTs
                      2009 J Peppers 10.5s 2 INTs
                      2008 T Suggs 8s 2 INTs
                      2007 J Peterson 11s 2 INTs
                      2007 S Phillips 8.5s 2 INTs
                      All those guys are OLBs/DEs, not one plays the same position as Hawk.

                      BTW go look up the SF MLBs Patrick Willis and Ahmad Brooks, both of them surpass that. I'm sure I could find more but I'm just too lazy to do so.
                      Last edited by Brandon494; 09-27-2012, 04:20 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                        All those guys are OLBs/DEs, not one plays the same position as Hawk.

                        BTW go look up the SF MLBs Patrick Willis and Ahmad Brooks, both of them surpass that. I'm sure I could find more but I'm just too lazy to do so.
                        Patrick Willis's (per the NFL site) best sack year is 6 in 2010.
                        Ahmad Brooks has one career INT. How could he have two or more in one season?
                        Ahmad Brooks has never had more than 7 sacks in one year?

                        You're an idiot. The two people you know for sure didn't come close.
                        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                        -Tim Harmston

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                        • #27
                          My fault I thought you meant over a 5 year period but at least I compared him to players of the same position and my dick is bigger! I WIN!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                            My fault I thought you meant over a 5 year period but at least I compared him to players of the same position and my dick is bigger! I WIN!
                            Maybe, but I got bigger ballz than all y'all.
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #29
                              I've been enjoying his play. Those who have been on here or JSO long enough to know me know my thoughts on AJ.
                              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ND72 View Post
                                I've been enjoying his play. Those who have been on here or JSO long enough to know me know my thoughts on AJ.
                                Put that thing away.

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