So, what does this season mean to you?

[denverYooper]

Houston is going to absolutely destroy us - don't even see that game being competitive. Don't see us having much of chance against the Giants either. The Giants are light years better than we are.

As for Arizona - they play hellish defense, we won't be able to move the ball against them at all... their offense isn't much, but then again our defense isn't either.

We might have a chance against Arizona, but beating them in Arizona will be a tall order for this Packers team.

The Giants are still all over the place, as they always are. Depends on if you get Eli chucking INTs left and right or other Eli. Houston is pretty good but to say that game won't be competitive is ridiculous. Arizona does indeed have a good D, as I felt Seattle did, but their offense is worse than Seattle's.

In years other than last year, Green Bay has typically started slower and gotten better throughout the year. I won't be surprised to see it happen again.

[RashanGary]

I'm not going to watch any of the games this week. This will be maybe 1 of 5 Packer games I've missed in 10 years. Some people will be doing it also. Hopefully the ratings dip a little, the media starts talking about it more, and more people join in with the momentum going in the favor of the fans.

I'd love to see the arrogant owners get beat.


And for anyone who's ever watched Game of Thrones, it's not the king (or commissioner in this case) who's making these decisions. It's the people who pay him. The power is in the money, and people who love power will do anything to get more of it.

The NFL is betting they can tax the people more without a rebellion. Time will tell. I've always been a fan of the regular people, and if they knew it, if they solidified, they do have the power, all of it. Without someone tilling the fields, scrubbing the floors, building the mansions, those who sit on the iron chairs have nothing. They have that power because they're willing to watch people suffer, and do not care. The people suffering don't understand because they couldn't imagine the true cold, callous nature of people who's only motivation is power. And so the cold, power hungry people control the rest of us. It's been that way forever. It's the way it's meant to be. The hard road, the road of work, pride, values. . . . That's the way it's meant to be. If not for the sacrafice it means to keep ones honor, there would be no such thing as honor. While tho powerful spend their lives filling a hole that will always be empty, the honorable live full, satisfying lives where they put their energy where their hearts are.

Same time, nothing satisfies me more than to see these disgusting people lose their power. It's the closest thing they'll ever feel to losing a loved one. Except it's power and money and it's not sadness. It's squirming, like a disgusting villan.

[wist43]

The ARI game better be in GB because I have tickets at home for the game.

lol... so it is.

Won't matter - they play crazy good defense, and our OL is a joke. Nobody respects our run game - just knock one of the ballarina's into Benson on the way to the QB, and that running play is dead. Every team we play now, will just sit their safeties over the top and come hell bent for leather after Rodgers.

What are the odds Rodgers makes it thru the season alive unless MM abandons his bombs away game plans?? Arizona's offense sucks to be sure, but our defense does too... I'll be surprised if we win that game.

[denverYooper]

lol... so it is.

Won't matter - they play crazy good defense, and our OL is a joke. Nobody respects our run game - just knock one of the ballarina's into Benson on the way to the QB, and that running play is dead. Every team we play now, will just sit their safeties over the top and come hell bent for leather after Rodgers.

What are the odds Rodgers makes it thru the season alive unless MM abandons his bombs away game plans?? Arizona's offense sucks to be sure, but our defense does too... I'll be surprised if we win that game.

This just in: there's reason to believe that Green Bay's defense is good this year.

[Joemailman]

Arizona's offense sucks to be sure, but our defense does too... I'll be surprised if we win that game.

Aren't you generally surprised any time the Packers win a game?

[wist43]

This just in: there's reason to believe that Green Bay's defense is good this year.

They're better than last year - but that's not saying much. They were one of the worst defenses in league history last year.

I like the players TT brought in... but Capers is the DC - can't overcome that. He should be doing commercials for hair spray paint.

[Patler]

Everyone is focusing on last night. To me it is much broader than that. Even if the Packer loss is the only one for which you can point directly to the officials (and I am not sure it is), their actions in many, many other games have altered the way the games have been played. In those too, they may have altered the outcome, just in a less direct way.

Simply a shortened season would not have bothered me. I grew up watching shorter seasons. So long as it is the same game, it doesn't matter to me. Shorten the season, lengthen the season, expand the playoffs, change the playoff rules, change the playing rules (as has been done many times) I don't care. But when you start including results of games not played in the manner intended, the overall effect is no longer legitimate. Next weekend 25% of the season becomes illegitimate. In my mind, the season is irreparably altered by the illegitimacy.

[RashanGary]

And their greatest feat is their ability to pledge the peoples loyalty to them, to give everything without question because most people have values.

[mmmdk]

Unless Packers wins the super bowl then this is a total wash of a season.

[channtheman]

Houston is going to absolutely destroy us - don't even see that game being competitive. Don't see us having much of chance against the Giants either. The Giants are light years better than we are.

As for Arizona - they play hellish defense, we won't be able to move the ball against them at all... their offense isn't much, but then again our defense isn't either.

We might have a chance against Arizona, but beating them in Arizona will be a tall order for this Packers team.

That's why they play the game! The Packers will be competitive and be in the playoff hunt at the end of the year.

[mmmdk]

I always throw $$ at Packers gear every season, buying online, and I pay dearly with fucking costums'n'shit but NFL [hence Packers] won't get no fucking $$ from me this season. Sorry!

I'm glad I reluctantly postponed my Lambeau return for 2013 and the new stadium stuff.

[ThunderDan]

I always throw $$ at Packers gear every season, buying online, and I pay dearly with fucking costums'n'shit but NFL [hence Packers] won't get no fucking $$ from me this season. Sorry!

I'm glad I reluctantly postponed my Lambeau return for 2013 and the new stadium stuff.

Please let me know when you are coming in 2013. I would love to grab a brew before, during and after the game.

[denverYooper]

Everyone is focusing on last night. To me it is much broader than that. Even if the Packer loss is the only one for which you can point directly to the officials (and I am not sure it is), their actions in many, many other games have altered the way the games have been played. In those too, they may have altered the outcome, just in a less direct way.

Simply a shortened season would not have bothered me. I grew up watching shorter seasons. So long as it is the same game, it doesn't matter to me. Shorten the season, lengthen the season, expand the playoffs, change the playoff rules, change the playing rules (as has been done many times) I don't care. But when you start including results of games not played in the manner intended, the overall effect is no longer legitimate. Next weekend 25% of the season becomes illegitimate. In my mind, the season is irreparably altered by the illegitimacy.

I agree. I have heard multiple players on record (Larry Fitzgerald on the radio recently) saying that the players' biggest issue is that the refs are not consistent and don't communicate, and those things really mess with the flow of the game. The players, to an extent, get used to the things that will be called during the game and often the regular refs will issue them warnings for things that they might be doing away from the play, but that would get called if the play came their way. So now the players, many of whom will adjust accordingly to the way a particular crew calls the game don't have any idea what to expect wrt the way a game is called.

So bad calls happen with regular refs but they're more rare and mitigated somewhat by proper communication and protocol. The big thing that seems to be affecting games, though, on a more systematic basis, is the lack of consistency from the refs. Put more bluntly, it seems that outright thuggery is paying off a lot more often right now.

[Smidgeon]

I stopped reading after the bolded bullshit*







*seriously, you don't think the refs cost them the game? What color is the sky in your world?

The part you stopped reading after is the part I wrote after the 49ers game. Not after last night's game. I was reinforcing the point that I've been questioning since the beginning the validity of games reffed by replacements.

As for last night's game, the refs clearly took the game from the Pack. I haven't been upset by a game this much since the Cardinal's/Packers game--and that one was bigger only because it was a playoff game.

[mraynrand]

The part you stopped reading after is the part I wrote after the 49ers game.

oops! My mistake. Apologies!*






*Unlike the NFL, I can admit a mistake!