Fan fun 2011 vrs 2012

[Patler]

So is it a purely intellectual exercise for you, then?

Curious, I don't know if I would watch the games if not for the emotions that the events on the field evoke.

I enjoy watching the individual plays, the physical performances involved in each, etc. The final score that occurs from the net results of those plays is not very meaningful to me. For example, Shields made a very nice defensive play against Seattle, as did MD Jennings. The facts that Shields was ruled pass interference and Jennings interception as a completion do not change how well they performed in those situations.

I enjoy following the Packers because they are easy for me to follow. I have said many times that I enjoy the goings-on of the off-season almost as much as I do the regular season. But, I own not a single Packer jersey, cap or T-shirt. I did buy a share of stock just for the conversation piece that it is, but I am not emotionally invested in the team at all.

[Fritz]

I enjoy watching the individual plays, the physical performances involved in each, etc. The final score that occurs from the net results of those plays is not very meaningful to me. For example, Shields made a very nice defensive play against Seattle, as did MD Jennings. The facts that Shields was ruled pass interference and Jennings interception as a completion do not change how well they performed in those situations.

I enjoy following the Packers because they are easy for me to follow. I have said many times that I enjoy the goings-on of the off-season almost as much as I do the regular season. But, I own not a single Packer jersey, cap or T-shirt. I did buy a share of stock just for the conversation piece that it is, but I am not emotionally invested in the team at all.

Well, I am emotionally invested. Almost sickeningly so. It's like work to sweat through these Packer games.

And I am enjoying - or was enjoying - this season more than last. It was easier for me to watch the Seattle loss than to watch yesterday's win (until Jones made that fabulous catch at the end to secure the game). I can't stand it when the defense looks like a sieve. It drives me bananas. Watching an opposing QB stand back in the pocket and serenely survey the scene while Packer defenders impotently attempt to get past the offensive line makes me crazy, and not in a good way. Hell, even when Capers blitzed nine guys, no one would get through.

Yesterday's poor showing by the defense is disheartening to me. They did stop the run, hooray, but allowing NO to get first downs on third and fourteen and third and seventeen was agonizing.

But I hope that as the youngsters gain experience, they will improve. And I am more hopeful that Neal will get his sea legs quickly and make an impact. Worthy did nothing that I could see yesterday.

But having said all that, I think this team is in a crucible that might shape them for a SB run. MM seems to think that a lot of good came out of yesterday's adversity, so I'm willing to hang my hat on that. They can build on this early-season cauldron.

[wist43]

Well, I am emotionally invested. Almost sickeningly so. It's like work to sweat through these Packer games.

And I am enjoying - or was enjoying - this season more than last. It was easier for me to watch the Seattle loss than to watch yesterday's win (until Jones made that fabulous catch at the end to secure the game). I can't stand it when the defense looks like a sieve. It drives me bananas. Watching an opposing QB stand back in the pocket and serenely survey the scene while Packer defenders impotently attempt to get past the offensive line makes me crazy, and not in a good way. Hell, even when Capers blitzed nine guys, no one would get through.

Yesterday's poor showing by the defense is disheartening to me. They did stop the run, hooray, but allowing NO to get first downs on third and fourteen and third and seventeen was agonizing.

But I hope that as the youngsters gain experience, they will improve. And I am more hopeful that Neal will get his sea legs quickly and make an impact. Worthy did nothing that I could see yesterday.

But having said all that, I think this team is in a crucible that might shape them for a SB run. MM seems to think that a lot of good came out of yesterday's adversity, so I'm willing to hang my hat on that. They can build on this early-season cauldron.

Capers hasn't changed anything. I had hoped that his soft fronts from last year were a consession to the lack of front seven talent - but TT gave him some talent this year and his game plans and alignments haven't changed.

From a philosophical standpoint, Capers complete lack of aggression in the front seven... that's what is disheartening to me. TT brought in an entire draft of front seven talent, and Capers is doing nothing with it. Rushing 2 on that 3rd and 17, he might just as well dropped all 11.

[George Cumby]

I enjoy watching the individual plays, the physical performances involved in each, etc. The final score that occurs from the net results of those plays is not very meaningful to me. For example, Shields made a very nice defensive play against Seattle, as did MD Jennings. The facts that Shields was ruled pass interference and Jennings interception as a completion do not change how well they performed in those situations.

I enjoy following the Packers because they are easy for me to follow. I have said many times that I enjoy the goings-on of the off-season almost as much as I do the regular season. But, I own not a single Packer jersey, cap or T-shirt. I did buy a share of stock just for the conversation piece that it is, but I am not emotionally invested in the team at all.

Fair enough, but alien to me.

I enjoy watching watching excellence in physical action, the Olympics, for example, but very rarely do I watch anything but the Packers because of time constraints, priorities and I would rather do stuff then sit and watch.

That being said, I will make time to watch the Pack because of my emotional investment in the team. I am far less emotionally involved than I was even five years ago but I still enjoy the joy of victory, which we all know is hollow without the potential to lose.

[mraynrand]

Capers hasn't changed anything. I had hoped that his soft fronts from last year were a consession to the lack of front seven talent - but TT gave him some talent this year and his game plans and alignments haven't changed. .

what talent are you referring to?

[Fritz]

Capers blitzed a fair amount last season, I think, and it didn't do beans. I do wish he'd rush more than three on those downs, but my gosh, let's rush people who can get to the QB. I would like to see a four man rush, at least, so opposing QB's feel at least a little pressure. Please let Mike Neal get his shit together, stay healthy, and play well!

[mission]

I do not enjoy games any more or any less depending on the outcome. I don't get emotional over a loss as in Seattle. I enjoyed the '70s and '80s even as the losses mounted. I stopped having an emotional investment in sports teams very long ago.

So does that mean you don't get the euphoria of a big win/Super Bowl etc? I mean, I thought emotion is what being a fan(atic) was all about. The agony in defeat is what makes the big wins so exciting. Not telling you how to do it, just more curious how you feel on the other end of things.

[Patler]

So does that mean you don't get the euphoria of a big win/Super Bowl etc? I mean, I thought emotion is what being a fan(atic) was all about. The agony in defeat is what makes the big wins so exciting. Not telling you how to do it, just more curious how you feel on the other end of things.

No, no euphoria for a win, even a SB win. A short time later, I hardly think about it, and by the next day it is fairly irrelevant to me. I have said many times that I am not a fan(atic) as much as I am an interested observer of the operation of the team. The Super Bowl is meaningful to me for its representation that what they did worked. It is interesting to me to consider how they can build on that to develop a team that might win multiple Super Bowls. I move very quickly into the off season maneuvers they will undertake.

[George Cumby]

No, no euphoria for a win, even a SB win. A short time later, I hardly think about it, and by the next day it is fairly irrelevant to me. I have said many times that I am not a fan(atic) as much as I am an interested observer of the operation of the team. The Super Bowl is meaningful to me for its representation that what they did worked. It is interesting to me to consider how they can build on that to develop a team that might win multiple Super Bowls. I move very quickly into the off season maneuvers they will undertake.

It all becomes clear to me, now, Patler is half-Vulcan.

I too enjoy the grand strategy aspect of the team building, etc.

But I do have a question, Mr. Patler, you green-blooded in-human, why do you follow the Packers, why not another franchise?

[wootah]

No, no euphoria for a win, even a SB win.

[Patler]

But I do have a question, Mr. Patler, you green-blooded in-human, why do you follow the Packers, why not another franchise?

Because I live in WI and have for most of my life. It's based on a build up of historical knowledge and information since Lombardi.

"Back in the day" the only information readily available was in local newspapers. A subscription to Sporting News helped with info on other teams, but you never really knew a lot about them. I have always read the Green Bay Press Gazette, Milwaukee Journal, Milwaukee Sentinel and now the Journal-Sentinel daily. It was difficult to be a very knowledgeable fan about any team other than the one covered locally..

As a young man, I was a more typical fan, but never fanatical about it; so it's not that I don't have a soft spot for the Packers, I do. I prefer seeing them win to another team, but it is very short-lived. Sort of like watching a movie that you enjoy, or eating a meal that you like. Pleasant at the time, but nothing significant or lasting. Very soon forgotten in the overall scheme of life.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I get excited watching the games, but I don't care that much anymore whether they win or lose by the next day.

The other sign that I am not so fanatical anymore is that I cheer for the Bears and Vikings when they aren't playing Packers. That is the same attitude I take towards the Big Ten, I want my team to play in a good conference.

In some ways, football was more fun when I hated the Vikings and Bears and Mike Ditka back in the day.

[Pugger]

That guy almost looks like Aramis Ramirez...

[mmmdk]

Repped & Ripley'ed !