3-Men Rush

[LegandofthePack15]

Is this the only play in Capers' playbook for 3rd and long situations? How many more times must opponents convert 3rd and a million before Capers realize that rushing 3 only work on Madden, where bums can sack the qb by rushing just 1?

I fucking hate the 3-men rush. Have a bad feeling every time I see it.

[Pugger]

You got that right. You can't let a QB like Brees just sit in the pocket and pick your young secondary apart like that.

[pbmax]

3 men rushing 7 (5 OL plus QB plus TE) means eight are covering four. If the Packers cannot make that work for a short gain, then there are larger problems than the scheme.

The Steelers have made that call work for years.

The Packers made it work in the preseason and the first three games, where their 3rd down conversion rate was very good. Its not time to junk it because it failed to work in the last game.

[Patler]

3 men rushing 7 (5 OL plus QB plus TE) means eight are covering four. If the Packers cannot make that work for a short gain, then there are larger problems than the scheme.

The Steelers have made that call work for years.

The Packers made it work in the preseason and the first three games, where their 3rd down conversion rate was very good. Its not time to junk it because it failed to work in the last game.

That's what aggravates me. With 8 guys in coverage, how can a receiver be so open that no one is within 5 yards of him? 8 guys can't cover 4 or 5?

[LegandofthePack15]

The Packers made it work in the preseason and the first three games, where their 3rd down conversion rate was very good. Its not time to junk it because it failed to work in the last game.

First 3 games? Seems like in all 4 games (and all of last season), the Packers would sack the qb or stuff a rb for a loss and then Capers would rush 3 and opponents would move the chain easily. It didnt just failed against NO, it has been failing since Capers became D-coordinator.

[ThunderDan]

First 3 games? Seems like in all 4 games (and all of last season), the Packers would sack the qb or stuff a rb for a loss and then Capers would rush 3 and opponents would move the chain easily. It didnt just failed against NO, it has been failing since Capers became D-coordinator.

You seem to remember different things from games than I do.

The Packers are 13th in the league on D in stopping 3rd down conversions. They have allowed 18/52 attempts or 34%. And that includes yesterday.

For the first 3 weeks of the season we were 9 of 35 or 26%. That is a phenomenal rate.

[pbmax]

3rd Down Conversion Rate 2012

49ers: 2-9-22%
Bears: 5-15-33%
Seattle: 2-11-18%
Saints: 9-17-53%

Now, that's not to say the defense was perfect, far from it. The 49ers had very few 3rd down attempts because 1st and 2nd down were WAY too successful.

But until the Saints, if the Packers got you into 3rd and not short, you were in trouble.

[sharpe1027]

It got us the game winning interception against Seattle.

[mraynrand]

Saints have a pretty decent O-line. As a coach, you have to adjust. How often do we see, in a third and long situation, that pressure forces the short hot throw and then all you have to do is tackle. Maybe Capers has less confidence in that back end tackling.

[pbmax]

McGinn put the Packers down for one sack in his online writeup. Stat sheet says two (Wilson and Matthews from memory). Was one erased by penalty or something?

[pbmax]

Also, McGinn says the 7 DB look (first rolled out in my recollection by Ed Donatell with Allen Rossum versus the Marshall Faulks in the playoffs) was called Dollar and inserted McMillan for Smith.

I know they ran it, but why was Smith on the field so much on 3 and forever?

[rbaloha1]

Its about mixing it up.

[LEWCWA]

You have to give Brees a little credit here to. that 3rd and 17 to Colston, Smith was a whisker away from tipping it. He should have had more depth, but most QB's don't make that throw and if they do it isn't perfect. Brees is a badass.

[Brandon494]

You have to give Brees a little credit here to. that 3rd and 17 to Colston, Smith was a whisker away from tipping it. He should have had more depth, but most QB's don't make that throw and if they do it isn't perfect. Brees is a badass.

Thats a play where Smith's height was a disadvantage for us, any other MLB would have knocked that ball down.

[Bossman641]

McGinn put the Packers down for one sack in his online writeup. Stat sheet says two (Wilson and Matthews from memory). Was one erased by penalty or something?

There were definitely 2.