3-Men Rush

[swede]

Thats a play where Smith's height was a disadvantage for us, any other MLB would have knocked that ball down.

I wonder how long DJ could make the fingers on his football gloves before someone complained? He might get another three or four inches come pass deflection time.

[denverYooper]

I wonder how long DJ could make the fingers on his football gloves before someone complained? He might get another three or four inches come pass deflection time.

[Joemailman]

[denverYooper]

[LEWCWA]

Thats a play where Smith's height was a disadvantage for us, any other MLB would have knocked that ball down.

probably, but they still don't get deep enough in thier drops on 3rd and extra long. Watch Urlacher play, he gets deep drops and dares people to catch the ball in front of him.

[rbaloha1]

Thats a play where Smith's height was a disadvantage for us, any other MLB would have knocked that ball down.

Brees would have adjusted for height. Smith is improving his drop angles.

[pittstang5]

Rushing 3 against Brees, the Manning brothers, Brady and hell, even Rothlisberger is crazy. If you give them time, they find the open man. Capers should have been blitzing the hell out of Brees all day.

[3irty1]

I like the three man rush sometimes but that's the whole point, its a gamble--same as a blitz. Its especially good against a team like ours or New Orleans whos offense is built on being in the right window at the right time and lots of short passes. A three man rush reduces the benefits of running a quick pass. Of course as a fan its infuriating when we rush three on a long developing pass play with little hope of a sack. To be fair though its probably way worse for fans because in the standard NFL TV coverage angles we don't see that much of the secondary so to us it just looks like we had 10 guys on the field.

[wist43]

Is this the only play in Capers' playbook for 3rd and long situations? How many more times must opponents convert 3rd and a million before Capers realize that rushing 3 only work on Madden, where bums can sack the qb by rushing just 1?

I fucking hate the 3-men rush. Have a bad feeling every time I see it.

Most of the guys on this board like finesse football... so Capers is a wet dream for them.

You don't hear the term much anymore, but back in the 80's when teams offenses were geared much more toward the run, it was customary when you got a lead late in a game to go into a "prevent defense", i.e. rush 3 and drop 8.

Of course all that usually resulted in is what it results in today, i.e. easy yards and eventually good opportunities for points. Nothing much has changed except that teams are now much more geared for the passing game, and the rules have been changed to aid the offense.

Rushing 3 in the 80's was stupid then - it's stupid now. Rushing 3 is the equivalent of saying our front seven sucks so bad, we know we can't get home, so we'll drop everyone and hope for the best. It's a very frustrating style of football to watch.

TT may as well not have even gone out and resupplied the front seven - Capers isn't going to use them anyway.

[sharpe1027]

Most of the guys on this board like finesse football.

I must have missed that poll. Nothing like making shit up to antagonize and try to prove a point. It must be election time.

[George Cumby]

Just a thought:

NO scored 34 ppg last year and is scoring 27 ppg this year. The other team does get paid.

And no, I do not prefer finesse football.

[pbmax]

Rushing 3 against Brees, the Manning brothers, Brady and hell, even Rothlisberger is crazy. If you give them time, they find the open man. Capers should have been blitzing the hell out of Brees all day.

I bet the blitz percentage was close to their average. The 3 man rushes were only on 3rd down. I am more worried about the coverages on those 3rd downs than the rush.

[wist43]

I bet the blitz percentage was close to their average. The 3 man rushes were only on 3rd down. I am more worried about the coverages on those 3rd downs than the rush.

I looked at the game a little more last night... Capers did send numbers more often than I thought, but with only 1 or 2 DL on the field we never got any push. Rushers were stymied in their tracks and Brees had a comfortable pocket and clean feet. When Wilson got his sack up the middle it was on Grubbs, not b/c of scheme or anything that Wilson did; and the next play was right back to business as usual as Brees hit Colston over the middle for an easy pitch and catch 15 yds - again no jam on Colston, and a clean pocket for Brees.

Aikman was criticizing Capers quite a bit for not jamming receivers. While giving Brees a clean pocket is bad enough, not doing anything to reroute or disrupt receivers is a recipe to give up a lot of yards, 1st downs, and opportunities for pts.

All of this is glossed over b/c the late NO FG was taken off the board, but the play that resulted in them having to attempt the FG was only b/c Sproles dropped an easy pass.

Rushing 3, not pressuring the pocket inside with beef, giving free releases off the line to receivers and sitting in zones is the very definition of "prevent", soft/finesse defense.

[Fritz]

I looked at the game a little more last night... Capers did send numbers more often than I thought, but with only 1 or 2 DL on the field we never got any push. Rushers were stymied in their tracks and Brees had a comfortable pocket and clean feet. When Wilson got his sack up the middle it was on Grubbs, not b/c of scheme or anything that Wilson did; and the next play was right back to business as usual as Brees hit Colston over the middle for an easy pitch and catch 15 yds - again no jam on Colston, and a clean pocket for Brees.

Aikman was criticizing Capers quite a bit for not jamming receivers. While giving Brees a clean pocket is bad enough, not doing anything to reroute or disrupt receivers is a recipe to give up a lot of yards, 1st downs, and opportunities for pts.

All of this is glossed over b/c the late NO FG was taken off the board, but the play that resulted in them in having to attempt the FG was only b/c Sproles dropped an easy pass.

Rushing 3, not pressuring the pocket inside with beef, giving free releases off the line to receivers and sitting zones is the very definition of "prevent", soft/finesse defense.

You are effing relentless, Wist. First the provocative claim that most on this board prefer finesse football, and then when a Packer player does get a sack it's not because of anything he did.

[wist43]

With the influx of front seven talent TT brought in - I was actually hoping to see some 4 man lines with Perry-Daniels-Raji-Worthy and bring Matthews/Woodson on the blitz from varying gaps and the outside. I was also hoping that Raji would be used less on run downs to keep him fresher as a pass rusher, but that isn't happening either. Raji is very quick for his size, but slugging it out on early downs saps him of his explosiveness on the pass rush.

Capers should be able to generate more pressure with scheme alone, but he's sticking to the same script he used last year. In short, Capers has made exactly zero adjustments to the piece of shit scheme and alignments he ran last year. The miscommunication on the back end has reared its head a few times already this season - that's on Capers.

I was hoping to see more pressure, but Capers is committed to playing small and soft.