M3: the slowest kid in the special ed class

[swede]

MM is not a quick thinker. Panics way too much.

He panics fifteen minutes too late.

[Rutnstrut]

Quite ironic that a lot of the people on here complaining about the lack of a running game, were the same ones saying we don't need one when others talked about it.

[pbmax]

Quite ironic that a lot of the people on here complaining about the lack of a running game, were the same ones saying we don't need one when others talked about it.

You don't need one if you can complete passes against Cover 2 man. But the Pacers have developed an inability to do so. The running is just a piece of that, though with Benson it seemed like one of the likeliest sources of help.

[wist43]

wist43 = Ogre with a real battle-axe (not rhetorical).

I may be an ogre, but my wife is a babe

[LegandofthePack15]

Green had a 9 yard run on his first carry and a 5 yard run before the 41 yard carry. If you take away his best carry (41 yards) and his worst carry (-4) he was 7/22, slightly better than Benson's game total of 7/20. Of course, to be fair, you should also takeaway Benson's best (9) and his worst (0) leaving him at 5/11.

I'm not convinced there was a huge drop off in performance, what changed was MM's willingness to use it.

Benson's carries were for 4, 0, 2, 9, 1, 1 and 3 yards.
Green's carries were for 9, 1, 3, 1, 1, (-4), (-2), 5 and 41 yards.

Notice that Benson didn't have a negative yardage play. That's b/c he doesn't fall down at first contact, he breaks tackles and he knows how to make something out of nothing; some qualities I don't see in the other backs.

[Patler]

Notice that Benson didn't have a negative yardage play. That's b/c he doesn't fall down at first contact, he breaks tackles and he knows how to make something out of nothing; some qualities I don't see in the other backs.

I agree, that is one of the benefits from a runner like Benson, but it's a small sample on which to make that comparison. I don't think we really know much about what type of runner Green will be. We haven't seen him carry very much yet behind the regular O-line with the starters on offense.

Ryan Grant was not one to break a lot of tackles, but had very few negative runs. For him it was decisiveness. He didn't dilly-dally much. For a while last year I posted Starks' and Grant's carries after each game. Starks' line usually looked like Green's from the Colt's game, a few longer runs and some negative carries. Grant seldom had a negative carry, but had a lot of 0-2 yard carries. Yet Starks probably got more yards after contact than Grant did. But Starks will tend to delay, and try to go wide at times rather than hitting up into a crowd, which Grant will do. In the end, their averages were similar.

[Jimx29]

will you guys quit fucking up my thread with logical debate?

this thread is about our head coaches incompetence and his fat fucking ass

Seems i've heard that a few times over the years

[Rutnstrut]

He panics fifteen minutes too late.

Spot on and funny.