Time to face fact

[ND72]

We are just not a good football team.

Offensively, the offensive line is a joke, across the board, not good. Rodgers is not good. He's holding the ball again, which makes our poor OL even worse. McCarthy an rodgers are both looking for the home run, and teams are saying beat us short, and we refuse to do it. Today my buddy and I kept saying that the CBs were playing 8yards off and dropping..run a damn slant. The OLB and DL were coming hard upfield...run a damn screen! Both times we did either of those, weird, they worked! Jennings is busy making commercials, Jordy looks scared, and our only reliable WR is fricken James Jones. I'm not even going to discuss Finley. Teams are completely our coaching/scheming McCarthy.

Defensively, I donno. We haven't played horrible but we still crap ourselves at different times.

Then to top it off we have to fight the refs. Perry crushes Luck, penalty. Shields gets shoved 10 yards, he gets a penalty. I mean I just have no clue why we get screwed on every call.

[packrulz]

I've noticed since last year's playoff loss that the Packers offense has become too pass happy, they've got to run the ball more. Green had a 40 yard run today, yet M3 abandoned the run. As far as the defense goes, I think they're tired because they can't get off the field. The Packers deserved to lose this game, in spite of the shitty calls.

[Bretsky]

agree nd; we are just not good enough to overcome bad calls and breaks that go against us

[pittstang5]

We are just not a good football team.

Offensively, the offensive line is a joke, across the board, not good. Rodgers is not good. He's holding the ball again, which makes our poor OL even worse. McCarthy an rodgers are both looking for the home run, and teams are saying beat us short, and we refuse to do it. Today my buddy and I kept saying that the CBs were playing 8yards off and dropping..run a damn slant. The OLB and DL were coming hard upfield...run a damn screen! Both times we did either of those, weird, they worked! Jennings is busy making commercials, Jordy looks scared, and our only reliable WR is fricken James Jones. I'm not even going to discuss Finley. Teams are completely our coaching/scheming McCarthy.

Defensively, I donno. We haven't played horrible but we still crap ourselves at different times.

Then to top it off we have to fight the refs. Perry crushes Luck, penalty. Shields gets shoved 10 yards, he gets a penalty. I mean I just have no clue why we get screwed on every call.

Good Post, I agree. My biggest beef is the playing calling, which has a trickle down effect as to why Rogers is holding on to the ball and taking sacks. He's not a rookie, tuck and run if it's not there or throw it away.

[King Friday]

I have major issues with McCarthy's offensive strategy. At this point, I'm beginning to think that MM can't accept the fact that the issues are partially his fault. He seems to refuse to adjust his offensive philosophy to match how defenses have adapted to our offense. With the talent we have on offense, there is no reason for us to be having the issues we are having. A lot of this falls on McCarthy, who is supposedly a highly intelligent offensive coach.

We need to run the ball more. Our OL is effective at run blocking if you get them lathered up a little. At this point, the passing game should not incorporate anything longer than a 5 step drop...and the ball has to be out of the QBs hand soon after hitting that 5th step. Stick Ben Affleck back behind the QB at practice holding a FAH Q paddle if need be to teach Rodgers a lesson. I am tired of watching him hold the ball for 8 seconds and take a sack for a 6-9 yard loss, which simply allows the defense to pin their ears back even more the next play. McCarthy better grow some balls and hold his MVP caliber QB in check. I don't think the receivers are playing horribly...they merely are trying to run a bunch of deep routes against defenses that are hanging back because we have completely dumped any portion of the WCO that was still in the playbook.

With the talent on this team, the level of play is an embarrassment. Now we have to go to Houston with the very real threat of being 2-4 if we don't pull our heads out of our asses.

[mraynrand]

Then to top it off we have to fight the refs. Perry crushes Luck, penalty. Shields gets shoved 10 yards, he gets a penalty. I mean I just have no clue why we get screwed on every call.

T Will's INT was called INT on the field and he didn't really lose control of the ball, even when it his the ground. Not enough to overturn, not really.

[pittstang5]

I gotta ask a question and I hope some of you in or near Green Bay or those that listen to press conferences can answer this:

Does the press/media ever question McCarthy on his play calling?

I live not too far from Philly and listen to most of the sports talk radio shows during the week. I sometimes catch a press conference from Reid. The media always goes after Reid about his playcalling.

So, I ask you peeps out there that live closer to Green Bay. Does McCarthy ever get questioned on his playcalling by the media/Press? if he doesn't, I think it's time someone should step up and do so. We are only fans of the game and we are clearly seeing a problem and nothing is being done to fix it.

[rbaloha1]

the Packers are a front running team that panics when falling behind. MM loses his cool too much which affects the team. Prior to the super bowl coming from behind was an issue.

Currently any deficit is met with complete panic by the entire team.

[mission]

we need to be willing to play to the 2-man defenses we're seeing... shorten your routes, run bunches and a ton of quick hitters. they keep thinking they can just run vertical and it ain't so easy... 3rd and short with the long passes are just killing me.

i dont think the team is very bad... feel coaching on both sides of the ball is not adapting and not putting players in best position to succeed.

[gbgary]

i think the spread (and empty backfield) is killing us. teams just tee off on us when we do it. the d is better than last year (but when playing soft it's dreadful) but the o has dropped off. it's not too late to fix things.

edit: i like tony's post above.

[Bossman641]

Getting real tired of the shotgun on 3rd and 1 or 3rd and 2.

[ND72]

I gotta ask a question and I hope some of you in or near Green Bay or those that listen to press conferences can answer this:

Does the press/media ever question McCarthy on his play calling?

I live not too far from Philly and listen to most of the sports talk radio shows during the week. I sometimes catch a press conference from Reid. The media always goes after Reid about his playcalling.

So, I ask you peeps out there that live closer to Green Bay. Does McCarthy ever get questioned on his playcalling by the media/Press? if he doesn't, I think it's time someone should step up and do so. We are only fans of the game and we are clearly seeing a problem and nothing is being done to fix it.

I haven't really noticed it being asked, nor have I heard it not being asked, but McCarthy and Thompson say a lot which gives you very little of an answer. "how can the offensive line improve the protection?"..."pad level".....

[Pugger]

I have major issues with McCarthy's offensive strategy. At this point, I'm beginning to think that MM can't accept the fact that the issues are partially his fault. He seems to refuse to adjust his offensive philosophy to match how defenses have adapted to our offense. With the talent we have on offense, there is no reason for us to be having the issues we are having. A lot of this falls on McCarthy, who is supposedly a highly intelligent offensive coach.

We need to run the ball more. Our OL is effective at run blocking if you get them lathered up a little. At this point, the passing game should not incorporate anything longer than a 5 step drop...and the ball has to be out of the QBs hand soon after hitting that 5th step. Stick Ben Affleck back behind the QB at practice holding a FAH Q paddle if need be to teach Rodgers a lesson. I am tired of watching him hold the ball for 8 seconds and take a sack for a 6-9 yard loss, which simply allows the defense to pin their ears back even more the next play. McCarthy better grow some balls and hold his MVP caliber QB in check. I don't think the receivers are playing horribly...they merely are trying to run a bunch of deep routes against defenses that are hanging back because we have completely dumped any portion of the WCO that was still in the playbook.

With the talent on this team, the level of play is an embarrassment. Now we have to go to Houston with the very real threat of being 2-4 if we don't pull our heads out of our asses.

Rodgers can't hold the damn ball forever and expect his O linemen to hold off the pass rushers if his WRs can't get separation. And why can't these guys get separation?

[red]

they got that god damn thing at practice where bells and whistles and lights and shit go off 2.5 seconds after the ball is snapped. its suppose to teach the qb to get the ball out quick. talking heads talk about how its just proof that m3 is so awesome

so, i think we can throw that shit out the window

[mraynrand]

Generally, I think Stubby's offense has too many bells and whistles at this point.