Time to face fact

[Deputy Nutz]

I don't think anyone had a problem with McCarthy's offense a year ago when records were being set and they were the best passing offense in the league. NFL coaches are really smart at football, and they figure shit out eventually, McCarthy has been done figured out, and for some reason the talent has regressed in 2012. That doesn't mean that the Packers can't get hot and go on a run, but they have to figure it out. McCarthy needs to go back to the drawing board and take some of the control back to his offense.

[mmmdk]

We may play like the Lions but Packers are not the Lions; that's a relief and hence no sleepless nights!

[Jimx29]

Just as i was "kinda" starting to be a believer in stubby, up comes that fiasco in the playoffs last year, and now this shit this year.
"Deer in the headlights" every fuking time.

[pbmax]

the Packers are a front running team that panics when falling behind. MM loses his cool too much which affects the team. Prior to the super bowl coming from behind was an issue.

Currently any deficit is met with complete panic by the entire team.

This theory might hold for certain games, but not today. They apparently panicked after leading by 18 today, then figured it out after getting behind again. Far more reasonable to conclude they doubted Green's inside rushing prowess.

[Joemailman]

Lots of shakeup on the offensive staff. The 2011 OC is in Miami. The 2011 QB coach is the OC. The 2011 TE coach is the QB coach. The 2011 RB coach is the TE coach. Is any of this a factor?

[mmmdk]

Lots of shakeup on the offensive staff. The 2011 OC is in Miami. The 2011 QB coach is the OC. The 2011 TE coach is the QB coach. The 2011 RB coach is the TE coach. Is any of this a factor?

Some! Add that Capers is still DC.

[LegandofthePack15]

Some! Add that Capers is still DC.

Not a Capers hater (though I do loathe the 3 men rush), but I have to agree somewhat.

Wayne was lighting up the Packers all day as the ONLY Colt receiver worth a fuck. Tramon Williams is the Pack's best cover corner. Shoulda let Williams shadow Wayne all game, even though Williams did allow a couple of completions to Wayne. Better than covering Wayne with safeties (including Woodson, who can't cover anymore), as Capers did during the Colts last two scoring drives.

Capers didnt shadow Colston with Williams last week, either.

[wist43]

I've always been a Capers skeptic, now I've gone over to Capers hater. Enough is enough... never trusted him. Always considered him far too much of a fancy pantser.

The announcers always say how "creative" he is, but all it amounts to is gimmicks; small/soft fronts, back end miscommunication, loose coverage, and busted coverages. You would think that MM would at some point, begin sitting in on defensive meetings and get a little more involved in the defensive game plan; but nothing will change - it's going to be a long year.

Houston is going to smack us around pretty good next week... 2-4, and looking pathetic doing it - seasons not lost yet, but it's close. If we lose in St. Louis, we're done.

[Gunakor]

Defense went to shit after Raji got hurt. Matthews and Perry can't get to the QB if there is no interior pass rush. Luck gets an extra second or two in the pocket, and his WR's have an extra second or two to beat coverage.

Perhaps it would have been wise to switch up to a physical brand of press coverage after Raji went down, our DB's harrassing Wayne and Hilton at the line and making them work a bit harder to get open. It would have helped to minimize the impact of that extra second or two. Playing off the line and giving them a free release every time the ball is snapped does no favors for a depleted pass rush.

[pbmax]

we need to be willing to play to the 2-man defenses we're seeing... shorten your routes, run bunches and a ton of quick hitters. they keep thinking they can just run vertical and it ain't so easy... 3rd and short with the long passes are just killing me.

i dont think the team is very bad... feel coaching on both sides of the ball is not adapting and not putting players in best position to succeed.

Allow me to channel Red and ask if anyone saw a slant fail yesterday.

[Joemailman]

the Packers are a front running team that panics when falling behind. MM loses his cool too much which affects the team. Prior to the super bowl coming from behind was an issue.

Currently any deficit is met with complete panic by the entire team.

The last 2 weeks Rodgers has led the offense to go-ahead TD's late in the 4th quarter. Yesterday after the defense then gave up a score, he led them on a drive starting with 35 seconds left to set up a makeable field goal. There was no panic on the part of the offense. The problem was that after the Packers went ahead with the TD, the defense couldn't get off the field. They gave up 1st downs on 3-7, 3-9, and 3-12.

[mraynrand]

Rodgers just can't win close games

[denverYooper]

Rodgers just can't win close games

lol

[pbmax]

JSO has gone full in on the Packers as not wanting to win badly, no fire in belly. Its the worst coverage I have ever seen. McGinn's column is as much character assassination as it is analysis or game story.

Andrew Luck apparently has an indomitable will to win. So does Reggie Wayne. He apparently sees no link between the two.

He also blows the analysis of the second to last play in my way of thinking. Rodgers immediately was calling for another play or package from the sideline after the completion to Cobb with a gesture that looked like he was crossing himself. McCarthy was looking at the playsheet trying to find a play. I am not positive, but I thought at the time that the play and the personnel got on the field late. McGinn thinks Rodgers blew the timing, but I think McCarthy was thinking FG and Rodgers wanted a play. But they time they came to agreement, they were short on play clock.

[Joemailman]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/173026821.html

"We're up 21-3 at halftime and we sort of changed our game plan in the second half and we couldn't do (expletive)," an obviously angry guard T.J. Lang said. "They knew all we were doing was throwing the ball so they were coming with everything they had."

Leave it to Lang to tell it like it is.