Time to face fact

[mraynrand]

I still have faith, I always will. I remained a die hard Packer fan in the 70's and 80's, if that didn't make me lose faith in the Pack, nothing can

Be reasonable. I watched them in the 70s and 80s, but I didn't have any faith in them to win anything of significance - at all, ever. Watching Randy Wright faint in the huddle in the Metrodome killed any faith I had left.

[Smidgeon]

Seifert has a good stat: The Packers lose a lot when their pass ratio is over 70% and win a lot when it's under 70%. The whole blog post was worth reading.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/47522/steep-price-of-packers-pass-happy-ways

[Smidgeon]

hey! I'm glad a DJ Smith bashing party has formed up - I thought I was the only one who noticed.

The guy was a tackling machine in college, set Division II records for tackling while at Appalachian State. So he's got to have instincts for playing football. I don't think he is enough of an athlete at NFL level. But he's better than about 6 other guys who had a shot at his position, so we live with what he can offer.

He's still better than that guy from Iowa who looked great in training camp and failed miserably when Barnett went down.

[denverYooper]

Seifert has a good stat: The Packers lose a lot when their pass ratio is over 70% and win a lot when it's under 70%. The whole blog post was worth reading.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/pos...ass-happy-ways

Oh man, the best part is that the link gets shortened so that the end says "ass-happy-ways" here.

[ND72]

The last two seasons have taught me its not how you start a season but how you finish it. We started the season 4-4 the year we won the SB, I still have hope in this team.

I just told a friend of mine I like it when we start slow because McCarthy tends to get a little ticked, start doing some smarter things, and our teams end great.nwhen we've started fast we haven't seemed to finish well.

[gbgary]

when do we find out about Perry's hit on luck?

[sharpe1027]

I agree 100%, imo I have always been of the opinion that Rodgers isn't as good as many here think he is. Add to that that Stubby isn't a great coach, nor is Capers you get what we have. A team with some talent, mediocre coaching and a GM that really has no clue how to fix it.

Exactly. A few games is a way better way to measure the Packer's organization than looking at the results over the past several years.

[denverYooper]

when do we find out about Perry's hit on luck?

They won't do much about it. The Packers are a finesse team.

[Pugger]

I've noticed since last year's playoff loss that the Packers offense has become too pass happy, they've got to run the ball more. Green had a 40 yard run today, yet M3 abandoned the run. As far as the defense goes, I think they're tired because they can't get off the field. The Packers deserved to lose this game, in spite of the shitty calls.

Its hard to run the ball when your O line stinks at run blocking. Now we don't have a back who can make something out of nothing.

[Pugger]

Boykin and Jennings were out, and Finley was injured. Would you use Williams as the fifth wide?

There are a lot of people who want Finley out the door and Williams in his stead. I frankly don't see another TE on our roster who can stretch the field like Finley can. Unfortunatley Finley can't catch the damn ball.

[Pugger]

Be reasonable. I watched them in the 70s and 80s, but I didn't have any faith in them to win anything of significance - at all, ever. Watching Randy Wright faint in the huddle in the Metrodome killed any faith I had left.

Those of us who endured the 70s and 80s should be awarded a Purple Heart. Younger fans have no idea how dreadful this team was back in those dark times.

[packrulz]

Its hard to run the ball when your O line stinks at run blocking. Now we don't have a back who can make something out of nothing.

In my opinion they don't practice run blocking enough, I think our O-line is fine.

[Iron Mike]

I just told a friend of mine I like it when we start slow because McCarthy tends to get a little ticked, start doing some smarter things, and our teams end great.nwhen we've started fast we haven't seemed to finish well.

I kind of miss the Mike Sherman "We've REALLY got our backs to the wall, now" or "We've REALLY dug ourselves a hole, now" comments.

[Iron Mike]

There are a lot of people who want Finley out the door and Williams in his stead. I frankly don't see another TE on our roster who can stretch the field like Finley can. Unfortunatley Finley can't catch the damn ball.

Quarless.

[mraynrand]

I still believe in Finley