Time to face fact

[Noodle]

From Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback Column:

A terrible rule in the first place, because a tackler keeping his head up and hitting a ballcarrier below the shoulders is the textbook way to tackle; for a defender to have to consciously keep his head to the side of a quarterback's torso is unreasonable.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz29OMQsgM7

This is the point. I think we were all taught to lead with our eyes through the ballcarrier's chest, with your facemask and chest making near simultaneous contact. Not so, anymore, at least in regard to hits on the quarterback. It will need to be shoulderpad first, almost as if you were playing without a facemask to protect yourself. That's just the way it is.

And while I didn't agree with the call, I can certainly see why it was made, because in real time, it does look like Luck's head snaps back just as Perry's head is up near said head, so I can see the ref thinking cause and effect there.

[sharpe1027]

I think what happened in this particular cock-up is that officer Zool jumped the gun and deleted a post to teach me a lesson - he is part of the robust club that finds me distasteful.

I think what happened is that you made up a half-baked theory about Zool's intentions because you fear that twig carrying zombie wallabies will steal your luck charms while you sleep.

[mraynrand]

I think what happened is that you made up a half-baked theory about Zool's intentions because you fear that twig carrying zombie wallabies will steal your luck charms while you sleep.

No Aussie rodents be *uckin' wit my charms!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sometimes, your wrongness is stunning even to me after all these years.

I was reacting to multiple requests to remove the post. If it were anywhere but in the Packer room it would have stayed. I wasn't permanently deleted in case someone decided I over-reacted. Also, I don't think I would ever do something to teach you a lesson. That would indicate you have the ability to learn about consequences for actions. I don't give you that much credit.

If you were the censor at youtube, and you got emails from angry fundamentalists demanding that you take down "The innocence of Muslims", would you just do it?

There was no policy or justification for removing that .gif beyond taking the easy way out - giving-in to intolerance. The image didn't violate any policies. There is nothing wildly inappropriate about the images of the Kennedy assasination that have been shown on TV a thousand times - is the forum for elementary school children?

I am not knocking anybody who was offended - maybe people don't want to see ugly pictures in a football forum, I'm sorry I cbose it. But demanding censorship of something just because you don't like it stinks. Just speak your mind and be done with it.

[KYPack]

If you were the censor at youtube, and you got emails from angry fundamentalists demanding that you take down "The innocence of Muslims", would you just do it?

There was no policy or justification for removing that .gif beyond taking the easy way out - giving-in to intolerance. The image didn't violate any policies. There is nothing wildly inappropriate about the images of the Kennedy assasination that have been shown on TV a thousand times - is the forum for elementary school children?

I am not knocking anybody who was offended - maybe people don't want to see ugly pictures in a football forum, I'm sorry I cbose it. But demanding censorship of something just because you don't like it stinks. Just speak your mind and be done with it.

Harlan.

Fuck it.

What is this, the 5000th iteration of this shit?

[George Cumby]

If you were the censor at youtube, and you got emails from angry fundamentalists demanding that you take down "The innocence of Muslims", would you just do it?

There was no policy or justification for removing that .gif beyond taking the easy way out - giving-in to intolerance. The image didn't violate any policies. There is nothing wildly inappropriate about the images of the Kennedy assasination that have been shown on TV a thousand times - is the forum for elementary school children?

I am not knocking anybody who was offended - maybe people don't want to see ugly pictures in a football forum, I'm sorry I cbose it. But demanding censorship of something just because you don't like it stinks. Just speak your mind and be done with it.

Harlan,

In all sincerity, I appreciate your apology and the spirit in which it is offered.

I beg your forebearance, but in my comment when I detracted rep points from you (which I did as I was drinking my morning coffee, therefore my recollection is a bit off), I do believe I used "please" or "thank you". That's not a demand. Nor did I ask Zool or Madtown to remove the .gif.

"Values" is another term for a moral code shared by a group of people. Given the response to the .gif in question, I think that the group has spoken. And what the group has said is that that particular video crossed the boundary of what is acceptable here. i.e.: A violation of the shared moral code.

I, for one, have chosen this particular tribe to socialize with because the discussion is so robust and open. I have left other forums because I posted stuff that although run-of-the-mill here, was unacceptable and deleted.

It would be nice if we could all move on from this. Clearly, as others are still engaging you, you have not been kicked out of the Tribe. That alone tells you how truly open this particular society is. Thanks for reading.

Zool:

Thank you for deleting the post. I believe that was the only correct course of action.

[RashanGary]

Outside of last year, where the offense was amazing from day 1, this is typical MM/AR stuff. Lots of sacks early, drives sputter. . . . . They tend to pull their heads out of their asses when they're backs are against the wall.

It's hard to get a read on the defense. There are some flashes from Worthy, Hayward and McMillan. It would be nice to see the zone defense come together since we need some element of disguise as to what we're doing. Unfortunately, outside of Hayward, it doesn't seem like our CB's are cut out for zone coverage. Williams looks lost playing off the ball. Shields even more-so.

I don't see the defense becoming much more than average. It's going to be tough to win games in the playoffs. That group just doesn't seem to fit right. There are some excellent players, just something is missing in how it comes together.

[Iron Mike]

The only fact I'm seeing is that the AFC sucks monkey balls.

I know, right?? Shocker.....

[LegandofthePack15]

If you were the censor at youtube, and you got emails from angry fundamentalists demanding that you take down "The innocence of Muslims", would you just do it?

There was no policy or justification for removing that .gif beyond taking the easy way out - giving-in to intolerance. The image didn't violate any policies. There is nothing wildly inappropriate about the images of the Kennedy assasination that have been shown on TV a thousand times - is the forum for elementary school children?

I am not knocking anybody who was offended - maybe people don't want to see ugly pictures in a football forum, I'm sorry I cbose it. But demanding censorship of something just because you don't like it stinks. Just speak your mind and be done with it.

Agreed, especially the bold part.

[LegandofthePack15]

I know, right?? Shocker.....

WTF? Hawk is doing some kind of rapper hand signal. I find rap music extremely offensive. I mean all rappers do is sing about murder and drugs and women being bitches. Take it down.

[mraynrand]

If you were the censor at youtube, and you got emails from angry fundamentalists demanding that you take down "The innocence of Muslims", would you just do it?

There was no policy or justification for removing that .gif beyond taking the easy way out - giving-in to intolerance. The image didn't violate any policies. There is nothing wildly inappropriate about the images of the Kennedy assasination that have been shown on TV a thousand times - is the forum for elementary school children?

I am not knocking anybody who was offended - maybe people don't want to see ugly pictures in a football forum, I'm sorry I cbose it. But demanding censorship of something just because you don't like it stinks. Just speak your mind and be done with it.

Youtube and Packerrats can essentially do what they want, and it's tough titties for you and everyone else. Somehow, I suspect you will survive the injustice you've been dealt. You want to post snuff videos with impunity? Start your own website.

[mraynrand]

WTF? Hawk is doing some kind of rapper hand signal. I find rap music extremely offensive. I mean all rappers do is sing about murder and drugs and women being bitches. Take it down.

What about HOs and Niggas? They 'sing' about that too. BTW, that damn Hawk gif is slowing my computer to a crawl.

[LegandofthePack15]

What about HOs and Niggas? They 'sing' about that too. BTW, that damn Hawk gif is slowing my computer to a crawl.

Yep.

[pbmax]

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?24624-The-GIF-That-Keeps-On-Giving

See censorship post at link above in Romper Room. I think we can try to put this thread back on topic. If we can remember what it was.

[mraynrand]

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...eeps-On-Giving

See censorship post at link above in Romper Room. I think we can try to put this thread back on topic. If we can remember what it was.

It's about facing fact. I refuse to face fact.