Time to face fact

[woodbuck27]

we do not suck. the depleted (through injury and age) wr core aren't getting open quick/often enough, combined with the depleted (through injury and age) o-line's inability to keep the rush contained, makes rodgers hold the ball too long or force throws, which leads to sacks and turnovers. rebuilding takes some time. tt did a good job with the d this year. it's the o's turn next draft. we're good enough against most teams even in our current state. if mm will max protect, when the occasion calls for it, maybe rodgers can have more time to let the wrs get open. we'll win the division and probably win a playoff game. if we can get healthy and gel late...maybe go further.

Yup !

We're not 'as Packer fans' hearing the coffin being constructed yet. We're the 'only' positioned 'Wild Card' team at 7 wins (7-4). Hopefully we get healthier on both sides of the ball before it goes the other way.

In 2007 we saw our team go into New York and post an almost diametrically opposite result Vs the GIANTS (a 35-13 'W') on our way to a 13-3 record that season.

http://www.answers.com/topic/2007-green-bay-packers-season#Week_2:_at_New_York_Giants

After that game our results Vs the GIANTS have gone south. For whatever reason this team seems to have our number and personally I look at the HC's on opposing sides. Otherwise, we fare well against most teams. We need to kick it off and defeat Minny this week and get some confidence back.

Karma wise... Packer fans should choose to be positive about our quest for an NFCN Championship.

GO PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

Masthay is third in the league in return average. That's why Ryan's getting his mail in Seattle now. He hits those boomers, but out kicks the coverage too much.

Hi KY. Quite a week (week 12) in the Pro Pickem'. I exercised some grey cells there. LOL

I'm trying to find that statistic to see that comparison in terms of punt return average. Can you give me a LINK please.

Tim Masthay has more punts inside the 20 (26-22) and 10 yard lines (12-8). Jon Ryan leads in avg. punt (47.7 - 44.0)

[Upnorth]

Good to see you woody.
The fact I don't want to face is our oline. At the beginning of the year I thought our runs up the middle would suffer but our runs to the left and right would be better. Instead it is a whole bunch of suckitude (fun fact my blackberry believes suckitude is spelled correctly). Now admittedly this oline has two recent 1st round picks on IR but none of our rb's did anything special when Buluga was still in.
Another fact I don't want to face is our inability to generate consistent pass rush without Mathews. Going into the giants game I thought if we could still generate a pass rush on Manning without CMIII our future was bright. Anyone got a flashlight? Our secondary looks a. Better than last year, but without a rush a secondary can only do so much.
Third ugly fact is the realization we are snake bit with injuries that keep us from being elite. We can win against okay teams, but are missing the horses to beat the elite.
Last fact to drudge up, in Capers past he goes to a team, gives that team a huge turn around on d then they slowly fade over the next years. I am loosing (zool sp?) Faith in our DC DC.

[woodbuck27]

Hi KY. Quite a week (week 12) in the Pro Pickem'. I exercised some grey cells there. LOL

I'm trying to find that statistic to see that comparison in terms of punt return average. Can you give me a LINK please.

Tim Masthay has more punts inside the 20 (26-22) and 10 yard lines (12-8). Jon Ryan leads in avg. punt (47.7 - 44.0)

OK I'm good on that now KY:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byteam?group=Special&cat=Punting

Punting: Tim Masthay and the PACKERS:

53 punts... 43.2 avg... 1 Blocked.... 4 TB's... 26 - Inside the 20... 20 FC... 17 PR... 5.2 PR Avg.

Punting: Jon Ryan and Seattle:

49 punts... 47.7 avg... 0 Blocked.... 2 TB's... 22 - Inside the 20... 12 FC... 24 PR... 9.7 PR Avg.

[woodbuck27]

Good to see you woody.
The fact I don't want to face is our oline. At the beginning of the year I thought our runs up the middle would suffer but our runs to the left and right would be better. Instead it is a whole bunch of suckitude (fun fact my blackberry believes suckitude is spelled correctly). Now admittedly this oline has two recent 1st round picks on IR but none of our rb's did anything special when Buluga was still in.
Another fact I don't want to face is our inability to generate consistent pass rush without Mathews. Going into the giants game I thought if we could still generate a pass rush on Manning without CMIII our future was bright. Anyone got a flashlight? Our secondary looks a. Better than last year, but without a rush a secondary can only do so much.
Third ugly fact is the realization we are snake bit with injuries that keep us from being elite. We can win against okay teams, but are missing the horses to beat the elite.
Last fact to drudge up, in Capers past he goes to a team, gives that team a huge turn around on d then they slowly fade over the next years. I am loosing (zool sp?) Faith in our DC DC.

Hi Upnorth:

You don't need any mousemilk in your engine. It's firing on all cylinders.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byteam?group=Defense&cat=Total&conference=NFL&year=season_2012&sort=411&old_category=Punting&old_group=Special

#14 Packers..11 G..22.3 PPG..348.1 YPG..103.8 R..244.3 P..**12 Picks..1 Pick6..#6 FF..1 DTD..433 T..61 PD..

*34.0 SACKS*

YPG = 18th NFL

** Picks = T-9th NFL

Tackles = 21st NFL

# FF = T-26th NFL

* SACKS = 3rd NFL


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