Packers vs. Texans Discussion Thread

[mmmdk]

I guarantee Texans beats Packers on SNF. Not sure that's such a bad thing [to guarantee].

[Joemailman]

When was the last time the Packers lost by multiple possessions? (Playoff loss to NYG excluded)

November 8, 2009 lost to Tampa Bay 38-28.

[Cheesehead Craig]

One thing about Schaub is that he's not mobile. He can be vulnerable to a pass rush. The Pack have done a fairly solid job of getting pressure this year so far and with a QB that could be less mobile then Cutler, things could be good on that front.

[wist43]

One thing about Schaub is that he's not mobile. He can be vulnerable to a pass rush. The Pack have done a fairly solid job of getting pressure this year so far and with a QB that could be less mobile then Cutler, things could be good on that front.

We can get occassional pressure, but even if we get a sack on 2nd down, and it becomes 3rd and 17, you know Capers will rush 2 and play very loose zone on the next snap - move the chains.

Capers won't bring consistent pressure... it's not in his nature. He'll sit back in lazy zones and hope for a pick.

[Smidgeon]

That is true. It happened twice in 2010, but in both cases injuries were a huge factor. It happened late in the year at New England when Rodgers was out. It happened earlier against Miami when the defense was decimated with injuries. Matthews, Pickett and Jenkins missed that game. It was right after that that the Packers picked up Howard Green. In both cases though, the Packers were within an eyelash of winning. They'll be in the game Sunday night, despite what some people might think.

Well, it's possible this will be another team decimated by injury:

Greg Jennings
Cedric Benson
Finley nursing a shoulder
BJ Raji not in full form
Ryan Pickett not in full form

That's 5 starters with the "next man up" being a significant step down (even if you argue Nelson is roughly on Jenning's plane, the next man in is Driver since he's the one coming off the bench). The defense collapsed after Raji's injury. I imagine that he and Pickett will combine to be one serviceable position. But there's another big body. Plus, two of the more talented receivers are injured/out. Don't know what to expect. A bounce back or a second loss in a row due to injury.

But none of that matters if Rodgers finally shows up to play like he did last year.

[George Cumby]

MM and Dom continue their brain-dead ways.

McCarthy calls pass on 12 consecutive plays to start the first half resulting in four three and outs and six sacks.. The sacks because Rodgers holds onto the ball for 12.9 seconds every play. Rodgers vomits and shits blood for the next six weeks courtesy of JJWatt.

Meanwhile, Dom, in a fit of manic-"genius", calls a 0-0-11 zone four times in the first half on third and long. Schaub, displaying the mental acuity of a road-killed possum, audibles to run, with TD runs of 67, 45, 81 and 52 being the result.

Kevin Greene finally goes berserk, stuffs Winston Moss's head into a Gatorade cooler, suits up and replaces Walden. He immediately pulls a groin muscle and is hospitalized.

AJHawk comes out of the closet and stating "Not only do I like little dogs, I like dick, too." He then immediately quits the team and signs a contract to play the lead in "Beach Blanket Babylon" after pushing a golfer into a water hazard.

Finely, despite a 5 gallon Massengil enema, still has a sore vag' and drops five passes that hit him squarely in the hands. In a fit of juvenile pique, Finley amputates his own hands just to show them who is boss.

The offensive line continues to offend and realizes that they lack a pair of balls between the five of them and join Hawk in BBB.

Woodson and CMIII continue to ball, despite the conspiracy of dunces surrounding them.

37-17, Texans.

*sigh*

I feel a little better now. Thank you for listening.

[OS PA]

OK JJ Watt is the best defensive player in the league.

[gbgary]

we're a much less complete team than they are. what's to discuss?

[Bossman641]

Bout the only positive thing I can manage to say is that the last time we had an away game that nobody was giving the Packers a chance in, Flynn came within an OL kickoff return of outdueling Brady in Foxboro and it kick started the SB run.

[mraynrand]

When was the last time the Packers lost by multiple possessions? (Playoff loss to NYG excluded)

November 8, 2009 lost to Tampa Bay 38-28.

That's why all the doom and gloomers really need to take their meds. For Chrissakes, I have my issues with the team, with the coaches, etc. etc. But I live in Cleveland. Packer fans are so damn spoiled that they've lost perspective. Teams lose games, most times far more horribly and far more frequently than the Packers have in the Stubby era.

[pbmax]

Last time the Packers played an overwhelming favorite from Texas they beat the Cowboys*. Everyone needs to stop bailing before the first snap.

*Was at home though

[Pugger]

I just pray we get out of there without another major injury.

[denverYooper]

Few things:

The Texans didn't blow the Jets away last night. The Jets had to play fairly aggressively* but they hung around. Sanchez did not fare terribly against Houston's defense and had some opportunities downfield, even though the Jets were reduced to sending Cromartie on some of those. They also let the Broncos just hang around after hitting some early long TDs in that game, to the point where Denver had a comeback attempt at the end. So I don't think the Texans are this juggernaut that will just roll over the Packers. In fact, I don't think they have more talent than the Packers. The one team in my mind with a clear talent lean on Green Bay is the 49ers.

What the Texans do have over the Packers is that they have their shit together. They know who they are and they're confident. Like the 49ers, their ascension has been long in the making, through several years' worth of missed promises. They have the late 90's Broncos rushing attack and a very good, though not impenetrable D with 1 clear blue chipper and a few other very good players. They have a quarterback in Schaub who takes care of the ball and can throw downfield when the opportunities are there (Sam Shields, NO peeking in the backfield this game!) and they have a former all-pro receiver in the twilight of his career. What it comes down to is that they're just playing all around solid football as a team and it looks like they are often of the hive mind humming along.

THAT team is solid and hard to beat but not the juggernaut they're being made out to be, mostly by Packers fans. The question, cliche though it may be, is what Green Bay team will show up on Sunday? M3 has a history of having the team up and ready for these games but man, the offense really is sort of a mess at the moment and I don't know what to expect out of them. Maybe this is the game they need to get some moxie back.

*Going for it on 4th and inches multiple times in their own territory, which is either foolish or brilliant depending on whether you buy into the stat geeks' claims on it.

[denverYooper]

OK JJ Watt is the best defensive player in the league.

No doubt about that but Clay is probably distant but striking distance second.

Von Miller is in that striking distance group too, but is not getting the media attention that Watt is getting because the other players on his line are not as solid. He had 5 TFL and 2 sacks against the Pats and their super quick hitter offense. His play has been shockingly good, even for a guy who put up great numbers as a rook. Last year he had some struggles in the run game and he is blowing it up this year.

Lotta games left yet...

[mraynrand]

Packers can exploit the Texan's secondary. Take 7 to 11 step drops, have everyone run 35-50 yards down field and throw deep all game long. I see an epic 72-21 Packer victory.