Packers vs. Texans Discussion Thread

[mraynrand]

The difference between the 2010 Packers and the 2012 team is that the 2010 edition gave up early on the idea that their offense could revolve around Finley.

Finley is getting about the same action as the other three top receivers on the squad. And he should.

[Smidgeon]

The difference between the 2010 Packers and the 2012 team is that the 2010 edition gave up early on the idea that their offense could revolve around Finley.

Only because he was injured in week 5. Before that, the offense was humming quite nicely running through Finley who was off to a stellar start to his year.

[Fritz]

Well, after reading Rodgers' comment in the JSo that the team needs to come out with more intensity Sunday, and reading MM's comment about the team's practices not being good this year, I wonder if this team has an attitude problem.

[denverYooper]

Rodgers (I think) mentioned something about how guys weren't performing scout team duties, etc with intensity. I don't know, I suppose there could an entitiled mentality among some of the newer guys (scout teamers). Would we have heard about their lack of intensity if they didn't lose? It must have been a leadership conversation because that's where I'm hearing it.

Maybe it's just a failure of the leadership.

[denverYooper]

Part of the thing is, the Colts were coming off of a week of rest and so were bound to have a bit of an advantage in terms of second half energy. So that combined with the Packers being in coast mode came back to bite them in the heiney. In this game, the Packers should have a *slight* rest advantage because the Texans played on Monday and they should have no reason for guys to be dogging it this week -- they just got embarassed and and the underdog on SNF. So the intensity excuse should be out the window.

[pbmax]

Its tough when you blast the scrubs for not practicing hard enough. Good to lead and set a high bar, but he needs to function better as well.

[Bossman641]

Its tough when you blast the scrubs for not practicing hard enough. Good to lead and set a high bar, but he needs to function better as well.

Nothing wrong with telling some of the younger players they need to take things a little more seriously, especially when Rodgers is making quotes like this about himself.

"My solemn promise is I'm going to work every day to get better. I'm
going to clean up some of the things I'm not doing as well as I
should. But, the proof is in the pudding. Right now I'm not getting it
done. I've got to look at myself first.

"But I can tell you nothing has slipped in the way of preparation or
the way that I practice or the energy and leadership that I take to
it. Which is probably the most frustrating thing. You can't really
point to one thing. I just haven't performed as well on Sundays as I'm
used to performing."

[pbmax]

Nothing wrong with telling some of the younger players they need to take things a little more seriously, especially when Rodgers is making quotes like this about himself.

But we are talking about the public sphere, where the scrub quote will be brought up more than the promise. You need to repeat the sentiments of the promise more often to get the same volume as the scrub comments. In private, that may be what he is doing.

[Tony Oday]

As long as Woodson isnt covering Johnson we have a chance!

[Bossman641]

But we are talking about the public sphere, where the scrub quote will be brought up more than the promise. You need to repeat the sentiments of the promise more often to get the same volume as the scrub comments. In private, that may be what he is doing.

Yea I see what you are saying. Was listening to First Take yesterday and Skip was having a field day with the practice squad comment, saying that Rodgers was using that as an excuse for why he hasn't been playing as well. Of course, he's a moron so I ignored it anyways. I haven't seen it brought up anywhere else.

If you actually look at what Rodgers said it's no big deal at all. Wilde commented that MM has been saying the practices haven't been as crisp and productive, and then asked if Rodgers agreed. Rodgers said he did and that the rookies haven't gotten down the tempo and importance of scout duty.

[Fosco33]

I'm on the upset train.... I think Crosby will redeem himself in closing minute and Pack wins by 3.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8489766/nfl-week-6-upset-watch-green-bay-packers-knock-unbeaten-houston-texans

[Cheesehead Craig]

Well, after reading Rodgers' comment in the JSo that the team needs to come out with more intensity Sunday, and reading MM's comment about the team's practices not being good this year, I wonder if this team has an attitude problem.

Here's a bit of info from here in MN, Antoinne Winfield called the team together earlier this season, I think before the season actually and gave them all an impassioned speech about how the youngsters need to step up now and practice harder like the vets do. He called out the whole team essentially to man up and make the most of the "now" moment. The players responded huge to it and on the radio interviews the vets are saying how practice is very intense and guys are really playing hard and that it's carrying over to Sunday. You know what, a 4-1 record is pretty supportive of that.

Perhaps the Pack needs a "come to Jesus" meeting like that as well.

[Fritz]

Here's a bit of info from here in MN, Antoinne Winfield called the team together earlier this season, I think before the season actually and gave them all an impassioned speech about how the youngsters need to step up now and practice harder like the vets do. He called out the whole team essentially to man up and make the most of the "now" moment. The players responded huge to it and on the radio interviews the vets are saying how practice is very intense and guys are really playing hard and that it's carrying over to Sunday. You know what, a 4-1 record is pretty supportive of that.

Perhaps the Pack needs a "come to Jesus" meeting like that as well.

Well, Jesus did flip a few tables in the temple, so maybe the Pack could use that kind of meeting.

Big game Sunday - maybe in some regards less important as a "must win" than in regard to the team's intensity and effort.

[wist43]

I think the talent is there... the team just needs to make some adjustments and get their heads screwed on right.

Adjustments by the coaching staff need to be made on both sides of the ball. Once they begin to experience some success with those adjustments I think the attitude of the team will right itself. Right now, I think everyone is frustrated with the lack of success, but that has to come down to the coaching staff - Sun tzu.

The breakdowns on defense are on Capers; and the offensive struggles come down to MM stubbornly sticking to longer routes and not incorporating more power blocking run plays. If the players attitude is downcast, that is on the coaching staff to get a handle on why, and make the necessary adjustments.

We're going to lose this weekend - that will put us at 2-4. The coaching staff is going to have to earn their paycheck after that - gut check time.

[rbaloha1]

Many good thoughts on this thread.

Sometimes A-rod has that Berkley mentality -- smartest guy in the room mindset.

The current failure imo is a confluence of stuff. First, last years success provided the offense as an over inflated ego -- offense is unstoppable. Rodgers sometimes is too smart for his own good.

Second, the sense of urgency from the offense is not there. The offense just expects to make plays since it worked last year with phenomenal success. Too much front running attitude

Third, MM panics much to much when there is slightest adversity. Forgets to run the ball even with capable backs.

From top to bottom, the team needs to step it up and recall the process which made the team great.