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  • #16
    Sounds like a racist thread title.

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    • #17
      The NFL's official statistics show that this team is ranked 16.87th in intensity (only averaging 2.3 celebration dances per game) and 17.23323rd in hustle (averaging 3.56 defenders/play taking off). That's not good enough. They should have at least 5 celebration dances per game and closer to 2.3 defenders taking a play off.

      I'd prefer more butt-slapping, chest-thumping, and reckless forays in to the opponent's backfield over last-nights boring, disciplined, gap-control defense.

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      • #18
        I put last night on the Texans... Capers crowded the line more than he has in the last 43 years, but still that's no excuse for the Texans not to be able to adjust. Even bad offensive teams usually roll up 5,000 yards against Capers coached defenses.

        I guess I have to give the defense some credit - the Texans never did get much going on offense. Still, I hate Capers and want him gone... he's as likely to come out next week and return to 2 man rushes and sloppy zones - it's who he is.

        Better pick up Sam Bradford off the waiver wire in fantasy
        wist

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        • #19
          Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
          The NFL's official statistics show that this team is ranked 16.87th in intensity (only averaging 2.3 celebration dances per game) and 17.23323rd in hustle (averaging 3.56 defenders/play taking off). That's not good enough. They should have at least 5 celebration dances per game and closer to 2.3 defenders taking a play off.

          I'd prefer more butt-slapping, chest-thumping, and reckless forays in to the opponent's backfield over last-nights boring, disciplined, gap-control defense.

          repped

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wist43 View Post
            I put last night on the Texans... Capers crowded the line more than he has in the last 43 years, but still that's no excuse for the Texans not to be able to adjust. Even bad offensive teams usually roll up 5,000 yards against Capers coached defenses.

            I guess I have to give the defense some credit - the Texans never did get much going on offense. Still, I hate Capers and want him gone... he's as likely to come out next week and return to 2 man rushes and sloppy zones - it's who he is.

            Better pick up Sam Bradford off the waiver wire in fantasy
            Are you EVER satisfied? 42-17 and still no love for the Pack. What WOULD make you happy, other than seeing Dom exiled to Siberia?

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            • #21
              The article was somewhat true.

              Agree the assessment about #21 and #50 are wrong. #50 is finally utilizing speed and leaving the ground to make plays. That goal line hit on Foster was one of #50's best hit ever.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                I put last night on the Texans... Capers crowded the line more than he has in the last 43 years, but still that's no excuse for the Texans not to be able to adjust. Even bad offensive teams usually roll up 5,000 yards against Capers coached defenses.

                I guess I have to give the defense some credit - the Texans never did get much going on offense. Still, I hate Capers and want him gone... he's as likely to come out next week and return to 2 man rushes and sloppy zones - it's who he is.

                Better pick up Sam Bradford off the waiver wire in fantasy
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #23
                  I'll just note here that some of the crowding of the LOS was done by the nickel back/safety from a 2-4 alignment (seven man box) that was previously deemed not beefy enough.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    I'll just note here that some of the crowding of the LOS was done by the nickel back/safety from a 2-4 alignment (seven man box) that was previously deemed not beefy enough.
                    Yeah, I noticed that... Capers got away with it against the Texans - I guess they weren't expecting it, and didn't have an answer. Afterall, why would an opponent expect Dom to have more than 2 or 3 defenders anywhere near the LOS??

                    Capers departed from his script quite a bit in this game... but kept to his small ball philosophy - I think he has an 11 man weight limit that he won't exceed

                    We play some really weak offenses in the next few weeks - Dom will probably come away looking like he knows what he's doing... which is unfortunate. We maybe could have gotten some momentum going to get his ass fired if we'd laid an egg last night... in the long run that would have been a better thing.

                    Capers should have his citizenship revoked, and his spray painted hair should be against the law.
                    wist

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                      Are you EVER satisfied? 42-17 and still no love for the Pack. What WOULD make you happy, other than seeing Dom exiled to Siberia?
                      Well, lol... I just want his citizenship revoked - Siberia?? That's kinda harsh don't ya think??
                      wist

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        First, the item about Collins has to be mostly about talent and secondarily about emotion.

                        Second, Worthy is far more emotional than Jenkins on the field. That seems a win for the younger players if emotion is the key to being more than mediocre.
                        Jenkins hasn't done much with the Eagles this year.
                        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                          why would an opponent expect Dom to have more than 2 or 3 defenders anywhere near the LOS??
                          They might expect it because he has a long history of putting a lot of guys at the LOS. Of course, they might not expect it if they generalized his tendencies based upon observations of only a few plays in a couple recent games.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                            They might expect it because he has a long history of putting a lot of guys at the LOS. Of course, they might not expect it if they generalized his tendencies based upon observations of only a few plays in a couple recent games.
                            Capers will blitz, even though when he crowds the line most of the time I know he's bluffing. What Capers will do more often than blitz is play weak fronts and sloppy zones. He did it for 22 straight games going back to last year. It's who he is - it's what he wants to do... keep everything in front of you mentality. He departed from the script last night... he does that from time to time.

                            He's just as likely to come back next week and give up 600 yards to Sam Bradford and the Rams.
                            wist

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                            • #29
                              I'm sorry wist, but 3 man rush on third and long is a staple employed by most if not all teams. It is highley effective in stopping the other team from reaching the LTG for a first down. It is not effective in limiting a positive play. The players have been poor in their execution of this D, for the better part of a year. This D forces underneath passes and a tackle b4 picking up the first down, it also forces int's if the QB tries to throw the ball down field. I'm sorry but the lack of success has everything to do with player execution, not Capers playing a D utilized by all teams in the league!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                                Capers will blitz, even though when he crowds the line most of the time I know he's bluffing. What Capers will do more often than blitz is play weak fronts and sloppy zones. He did it for 22 straight games going back to last year. It's who he is - it's what he wants to do... keep everything in front of you mentality. He departed from the script last night... he does that from time to time.

                                He's just as likely to come back next week and give up 600 yards to Sam Bradford and the Rams.
                                I must have misread your post. I thought you were discussing crowding the LOS with players, but it seems you meant blitzing. It didn't seem like he blitzed any more than usual last night to my untrained eye. But, I didn't count the snaps. Did you?

                                IMO, this is the same script he uses when he has not respect for the opposing QB and lots of respect for the RB. He does the same thing against AP. I disagree with you conclusion that the Packers should use it against good QBs. They would get killed.

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