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  • #16
    Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
    According to PFR's SoS (Strength of Schedule) calculations, Green Bay has played the 3rd toughest schedule so far. Dallas 1, Carolina 2, GB 3, same as FO's stat indicates.

    If you look at the CHFF table above, Green Bay has already played 4 "Quality" opponents (teams with a record >0.500) and are 2-2 in those games. Dallas is the only other team with 4 quality opponents. Though if either would have beaten Seattle and Seattle was 3-3 it would no longer count as a quality game.
    So, Seattle was only a quality game because the Packers 'lost' to them. I guess they did us a favor by 'beating' the Packers, because that helped the Packers strength of schedule.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      So, Seattle was only a quality game because the Packers 'lost' to them. I guess they did us a favor by 'beating' the Packers, because that helped the Packers strength of schedule.
      I think it had a small impact on the SoS measure of PFF and a smaller impact on the Strength of Schedule according to DVOA. The SoS is based on scoring differentials, and the DVOA statistic is based on play-by-play data that is normalized against an "average" play.

      The "Quality Standings" index that CHFF uses only reflects games against opponents with a record above 0.500. So that is impacted much more by a game that ends on a last second outcome-changing play.

      I just included mention of the QS (Quality Standing) stat because it lends some more support to the idea that the Packers are a good team playing a difficult schedule. My comment on that particular statistic's volatility was an just a caveat of that particular stat, not the other Strength of Schedule stats listed.
      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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      • #18
        Looking at it again, they've already played one of their cupcake games (Jacksonville), and have two more (Tennessee, Carolina) left. We also get to play Jacksonville and Tenn.

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        • #19
          Week 7

          ESPN's power rankings take the daring leap of putting a two loss team in a virtual tie with a 1 loss team. Elsewhere, power rankings = overall record. Its a pretty layout of the standings page.

          Packers are 7th, 1 slot behind the Ravens and 1 ahead of the Patriots. And look, Vikings getting no credit with a 5-2 record at spot #9.
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          • #20
            Football perspectives now have Packers at 4th http://www.footballperspective.com/c...sunday-102112/
            Cold hard football opionions now has them second http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...-hiatus/18621/
            Just hope they remember losing to Indy and how much letting a trap game get them stung.
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            • #21
              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Week 7

                ESPN's power rankings take the daring leap of putting a two loss team in a virtual tie with a 1 loss team. Elsewhere, power rankings = overall record. Its a pretty layout of the standings page.

                Packers are 7th, 1 slot behind the Ravens and 1 ahead of the Patriots. And look, Vikings getting no credit with a 5-2 record at spot #9.
                The bolded part is generally true, and pretty stupid. Power rankings are supposed to be about who should beat who in a head to head match-up, aren't they? Prisco's rankings at sportsline.com are historically ridiculous, and this week is no different. The Bears are at #2...because they are 5-1, despite who they've beaten. GB sits at 6, again because of their record, but does anyone think there are 5 teams in the NFL better than them, although it's hard to argue with all but one of them.
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