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    Woodson is clearly a great zone player and can man up inside, on TE's/RB's. Hayward looks like a really instinctive zone player, and has done really well in man defense. Williams isn't great in zone, but he's good enough. Everyone seemed more sound back there today, in both types of coverages.

    Shields is good, maybe even very good at man defense, but the inability to play zone either makes us very predictable and one dimensional on the back end, or we get shredded when we do play zone.

    House did some good things, and bad. It will be interesting to see how he rounds out. Shields might be our 4th most effective corner, even if he's our 2nd best man corner.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    Better when playing the Rams offense.

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    • #3
      Givens was their only real passing threat. Helped them not having Amendola. That being said, Hayward is fast and instinctive. He may get burned once in awhile, but is kind of playing like Shields did his rookie year. Bright future for our secondary thanks to TT's drafting.
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      • #4
        Everyone's real quick to give up on Shields, first TC, and again now! I don't think he's so easily replaceable.

        House and Hayward both looked pretty damn good though. An embarrassment of riches at CB is a pretty damn good thing.
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        • #5
          no
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            no
            this
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #7
              Wrong thread

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                Everyone's real quick to give up on Shields, first TC, and again now! I don't think he's so easily replaceable.

                House and Hayward both looked pretty damn good though. An embarrassment of riches at CB is a pretty damn good thing.
                Never would have thought we'd be saying that this season. And just think -- we had Jarrett Bush starting against the 49ers.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mission View Post
                  Never would have thought we'd be saying that this season. And just think -- we had Jarrett Bush starting against the 49ers.
                  Now we just need to get a S and the defense will be looking fantastic.
                  All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                    Now we just need to get a S and the defense will be looking fantastic.
                    I'd rather have another or a proven pass rusher. Secondary looked good today, but remember, it's the Rams - they're not known for their "High-Octane" offense. Didn't see much of a pass rush today, considering the front 7 was playing against a mis-matched o-line.

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                    • #11
                      Like cheesehead said we need a safety. I would also like to point out the rams are not exactly a good air offence team. Our passing d was good not great. Props to Haywood.
                      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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                      • #12
                        Take away some shitty calls and Shields is having a good year.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #13
                          I would play Shields at RCB, and Hayward in every passing down subpackage (so leave Woodson at S, and play Hayward inside).

                          Shields' ability to keep up with more or less any RB out there is something you want on the field.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
                            I'd rather have another or a proven pass rusher. Secondary looked good today, but remember, it's the Rams - they're not known for their "High-Octane" offense. Didn't see much of a pass rush today, considering the front 7 was playing against a mis-matched o-line.
                            Green Bay is leading the league in sacks. They had 3 yesterday, a bit under their average of 3.42. And the Rams played a lot of small ball yesterday.
                            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                              I would play Shields at RCB, and Hayward in every passing down subpackage (so leave Woodson at S, and play Hayward inside).

                              Shields' ability to keep up with more or less any RB out there is something you want on the field.
                              I think Hayward is Woodson's heir-apparent. Smart enough to learn a bunch of different positions, great ball skills, and big enough to line up safety.
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                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
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