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Hayward has put himself in the conversation for DROY.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI think Hayward is Woodson's heir-apparent. Smart enough to learn a bunch of different positions, great ball skills, and big enough to line up safety.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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So I did not pay close attention to House, but I'm curious as to how he played. He was the starter early in training camp. Can he play zone? How does he do supporting the run defense?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Looked fit and played alright. Got victimized on the TD by biting and waiting too long for an inside move when the WR went outside down the sideline. Looked rusty perhaps, but not injured.Originally posted by Fritz View PostSo I did not pay close attention to House, but I'm curious as to how he played. He was the starter early in training camp. Can he play zone? How does he do supporting the run defense?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Hayward seems to possess a fair amount of Charles Woodson's instincts. With the coming salary cap/resigning issues, I think Woodson is gone next year - and Hayward will be used in a Woodson-like role.
House was solid, I thought - especially on reacting to slants. He was burned on the td, but this would seem to be part of the learning process.Who Knows? The Shadow knows!
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When he was drafted, Hayward's coach in college said described him as being "weird smart" or something like that. i.e.: He just knows when to be in the right place at the right time.Originally posted by The Shadow View PostHayward seems to possess a fair amount of Charles Woodson's instincts. With the coming salary cap/resigning issues, I think Woodson is gone next year - and Hayward will be used in a Woodson-like role.
House was solid, I thought - especially on reacting to slants. He was burned on the td, but this would seem to be part of the learning process.
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Weird smart would normally worry me in a mad scientist sort of way. For football, I welcome it.
Shields talents fit a lot of the defenses the Packers play. Remember, everyone wants the Pack in man to man underneath. He can still learn zone well enough to be Tramontana serviceable in zone.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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House looked great outside of that touchdown play. Really aggressive. Good body control, breaking up passes without getting there too soon. Looked like the guy we saw in the preseason. Looks a lot bigger than Hayward... just from a second year bulk-up perspective. If we can get one of these safeties to make a big jump this could be a very, very good secondary with -- dare I say it -- Tramon Williams one of the weak links.
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Yes.
SS has too many mental lapses which results in big td receptions.
Upon the drafting of Hayward expected CH to become the starter. Dude is tailor made for the Capers cover 2. Comparing to Asante Samuel is a good one.
Never accepted the lack of a good 40 time preventing CH from running deep with receivers. Anticipation abilities easily overcome the lack of SS type speed.
SS benefitted from a poor traning camp and injuries.
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